{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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whoismiked wrote:

Here is a good question:

Are IIQ/IIR gems linked to minions snapshotted into them? or is the bonus caculated at the time of the kill?

I'm wondering if after a minion is snapshotted if replacing some of the supports with IIQ/IIR would do anything or not.

I guess all supports are snapshot, as are Chober, Sidhebreath, and so on.

Can we still get the 6 zombies with Cast on Death by using righteous fire or how do you guys make it now? I just got a Tabula Rasa and tried it. But the righteous fire stops at 1 hp and after i got 1 zombie he is allway killing all possible enemies around me.

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Gimgork wrote:

Can we still get the 6 zombies with Cast on Death by using righteous fire or how do you guys make it now? I just got a Tabula Rasa and tried it. But the righteous fire stops at 1 hp and after i got 1 zombie he is allway killing all possible enemies around me.

blood magic + RF
you'll die :-)

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Gimgork wrote:

Can we still get the 6 zombies with Cast on Death by using righteous fire or how do you guys make it now? I just got a Tabula Rasa and tried it. But the righteous fire stops at 1 hp and after i got 1 zombie he is allway killing all possible enemies around me.

doh !

blood rage, not blood magic.

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plasticeyes wrote:

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Gimgork wrote:

Can we still get the 6 zombies with Cast on Death by using righteous fire or how do you guys make it now? I just got a Tabula Rasa and tried it. But the righteous fire stops at 1 hp and after i got 1 zombie he is allway killing all possible enemies around me.

doh !

blood rage, not blood magic.

Thanks this is working pretty well. Now i have another problem. After i summed all my better zombies, how can i exchange the Tabula Rasa for another chest? Whenever i try it my zombies are dying (or so).

You have to be in town to do so.
And the Raise zombie or spectre skill has to be at the same position as in your tabularasa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOm1eAaV2GQ&feature=youtu.be

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axt7effekt wrote:

You have to be in town to do so.
And the Raise zombie or spectre skill has to be at the same position as in your tabularasa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOm1eAaV2GQ&feature=youtu.be

Ok then i got it. Thx you all for helping a new snapshot summoner out.

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Currently I run Purity of Ice/Fire/Lightning/Elements, Vitality, Grace, Discipline, Clarity, and Haste. Will add Determination later.

wow. not sure i'll be able to run 6 auras. 4 for sure and maybe 5, but 6 ?
although i suspect discipline gives the boost you need to be able to run that 6th.

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Snapshotting the BM with Chober Chaber + Sidehebreath + Sunblast.

CoD zombie will benefit very little from sidehebreath and chober. Even without CoD, it's +10 to 15 life and damage for sidhebreath, and 20-40 life for chaber. I have ALL the minion damage and life passives. That sort of increase will make very little difference, but I can test and make sure. I have sidehebreath but not chober.

why sunblast ?

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Full Minion Passives (Damage and Life). She dies ridiculously fast After a few arctic breaths with Dyadus debuff + Elemental Equilibrium.

ok. not using EE. Don't have a Dyadus. EE is a serious damage buff. I could respec into it very easily. I find the mechanics confusing, at this point it's more likely to hurt than help.

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I don't even have to bother cursing her or dropping a rejuv totem, but both of these will help you quite a bit if your gear isn't enough to support tons of auras. I do use the Animation Flasks, but she dies way too fast before its an issue for the single BM. Also, try raising the BMs on Lunaris 3 to gain that +1 Monster level.

Didn't know lunaris 3 was +1 level, so that's easy enough.

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Also, ground chill is ridiculously good for her. Piety has a lot of issues trying to run to portals with Ice all over the place. Hope this helps you with farming her.

ok- another good strategy to try. as with the freeze mine, i don't have anything leveled up to use.

meanwhile i've made my tree changes to get the extra auras and spec out of MI, but haven't had a chance to test.

Thanks very much for your help.

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wow. not sure i'll be able to run 6 auras. 4 for sure and maybe 5, but 6 ?
although i suspect discipline gives the boost you need to be able to run that 6th.

Discipline in my build is used for mana regen and to provide enough mana to run clarity + Arctic Breath currently. Eventually when I can get Shavs it'll be for extra defense only.

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CoD zombie will benefit very little from sidehebreath and chober. Even without CoD, it's +10 to 15 life and damage for sidhebreath, and 20-40 life for chaber. I have ALL the minion damage and life passives. That sort of increase will make very little difference, but I can test and make sure. I have sidehebreath but not chober.

why sunblast ?

Completely wrong here on the CoD part. Sidehebreath provides 60.6% Increased Damage with a maxed CoD ALONE. Add in some more multipliers and it only gets larger. If your having minion survivability problems, 55% Increased Life WILL make a difference. Its why we snapshot things. That extra HP is the difference between surviving a boss fight or having time to pot you minions. Also, for BMs with proper damage supports, 55% more life translates to 167% Increased Damage.

Sunblast serves two purposes. 1. Makes using trap support as painless as possible. 2. 40% Increased Damage.

Its all about stacking modifiers.

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ok. not using EE. Don't have a Dyadus. EE is a serious damage buff. I could respec into it very easily. I find the mechanics confusing, at this point it's more likely to hurt than help.

Nothing confusing about it. The idea is you do little damage yourself. So by spamming a Lightning or Cold spell, the target receives -50% Fire resist. That is a significant boost for BM damage since anytime they dip into the negatives that becomes a more multiplier. Dyadus is not necessary, and may not even be preferable for most people. Either way, they drop in price more and more each day.

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Completely wrong here on the CoD part. Sidehebreath provides 60.6% Increased Damage with a maxed CoD ALONE. Add in some more multipliers and it only gets larger. If your having minion survivability problems, 55% Increased Life WILL make a difference. Its why we snapshot things. That extra HP is the difference between surviving a boss fight or having time to pot you minions. Also, for BMs with proper damage supports, 55% more life translates to 167% Increased Damage.

haha- i forgot about the increase being multiplied by the more.

so it's (1+x)(1+y) where x is the increases and y is the "more" modifiers. so with 200% more damage your 1.5 becomes 3.0 and 1.75 (only 25% increase) becomes 3.5.

yep- big difference.

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Sunblast serves two purposes. 1. Makes using trap support as painless as possible. 2. 40% Increased Damage.

i missed that you are using traps. which ones ?

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Its all about stacking modifiers.

yes - but there are subtleties there i keep forgetting.

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Nothing confusing about it. The idea is you do little damage yourself. So by spamming a Lightning or Cold spell, the target receives -50% Fire resist. That is a significant boost for BM damage since anytime they dip into the negatives that becomes a more multiplier. Dyadus is not necessary, and may not even be preferable for most people. Either way, they drop in price more and more each day.

well for a single instance it's fine, i.e. i hit you with cold, my next hit with fire is "more" damage.

The part i'm confused about is what happens on DoT effects, like burning or the unrighteous fire. You say spamming, so i assume i have to hit early and often with cold or lightning. i use arc and cast cast in fairly quickly, so that should work.

Thanks again for your help. I really appreciate it. I have lots of things to try now.