{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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surVfate wrote:
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NiNcsszaM wrote:
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Caldrin84 wrote:
This build is really awesome. I use it for my first char in path of exile and finally reached lvl 80... until the middle of merciless I felt very weak but then I started to see the improvement.

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guys I've been wondering..
How can people say this build is really cheap??

Ideally you need:
Chober (pref 6L)
4L +2minion helm
Montrguls grasp
Min 5L chest (and/or Tabula Rasa)
Windscream or Bones of Ullr
Several pretty rare gems like MStrike,Cast on Death and a LOT of gems in general (curses, auras, crapload of support gems, altogether like 30 different ones, also a lot of levelled gems)
A gear that allows you to support 4-5 auras (plus high level AA)
Multiple Seething flask of animations
... and probably more that I have forgotten

I dont really know the prices that much but all of them adds up to a lot of exalts for a poor person (like me).

and how the hell is the above guy managed to get all of that with his first character? Probably I am missing a goldmine where I can get all of these rather easily.

any recommendations for a discount version of this build?


It's really cheap because, well,... It is. In fact it's the cheapest imo since it is Life Based.

My first char ever in PoE is using this build, and her currently gears-feed other chars.

Okay, so I guess you need me to be a little bit more detail than that.

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- Chober Chabber: Why you need 6L? I don't get it, I bought one with 32% roll for 2c only, I used to see 36% roll sold with 1c. 2~3S is enough with only Summon Skeleton - Melee Splash for getting a couple of courpses.

- 4L +2 Minion Helm: These are cheap too, on Domination I bought one for 3c.

- Montrguls Grasp: Okay you right about this one, but why you even bother about this? It's a late game Item only, by then you properly can afford it, but I can sure that you still be effective as hell without it if you know the way.

- Min 5L Chest / Tabule Rasa: Why you need both mate? If you got 5L chest you can do 70+ Map without any real problem and no need for Tabula Rasa unless you want OP. If you got Tabula Rasa then just a decent armour / life / resistances chest with 1~4L you can get the job done thank for Minion Snapshot. Or if you don't have both, try Raise Spectre - Minion Life - Minion Damage in that Matua Tupuna or added Minion & Totem Resist / Whatever Support gems that fit your type of Spectre if you use 4L chest. And while 5L chest are not that expensive... :P

- Windscream or Bones of Ullr: IDK about Windscream, but if you feel lack of currency then just spent 4 point into that extra curse node, it's not like you gonna need 3 curse before late game. Bones of Ullr, I bought my for 2c and never used it again after a couple of try since I run MF gear.

- "Several pretty rare gems...": Multistrike is Quest gem, can be aquired by the end of Act3 Merc in Library Quest. Before you can get it, I'm sure you don't need it since you still pretty much depend on Minion Instadbility. Other gems, they can easily drop and several already in Quest Reward, you could check the Wiki for that. Or you could just trade for it. 1c for a gem are not that expensive.

- "A gear that allows you to support 4-5 auras (plus high level AA)": I do 70+ Map with 3 Aura depend on the Map and still can use AA, it not like you running all the time, neither you blend in your minions for safety or you Lightning Warp elsewhere. And also by that time things die before they can do anything significantly to you. By the time you got around 78~83 and grab all the Mana Reserved node and your Reduced Mana gems get to lvl 19~20 you could run all of the auras that needed.

- Multiple Seething Flask of Animations: Actually 3 is enough for starting 66 maps or Piety farm. You could just run Warlord Mask like I do and since things die too quick with Warlord's Mask you gain Flask Charge so damn quickly. My estimate is you need around 100 alt per Flask to the right roll. Or you could do like me, just pickup every unid Hallowed Life Flask you see and unid them then throw away if that not the right one, and pickup white Hallowed Life Flask and Transmute / Agument them till you get the right one. BTW Bubbling Hallowed Flask of Animation is a good choice too.

Oh and on low level minions is mean to be dead by the Minions Instadbility Keystone. If you really want to keep them alive then just use Warlord's Mask since it also give life leech to your Zombie. Or just pop out a Reju Totem :V


I am super poor myself, thank to this build I started my dream about having better gear and play a couple other build at the same time.




Huh its kind of a relief what you are saying.

I actually have a +2minion helm but its Dex only and I'm not sure its worth sinking jewellers and chromatics to get the right colours which mainly are blue and red.
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Montreguls... well it seems they are 10+ exalts which the way I play probably never will get.They look so damn helpful though.

I have a kickass 5L chestpiece that I bought from a vendor

/sarcasm
Found a tabula rasa the other day, I might just exchange it since this blue one doesnt really provide much anyway. I still feel that I'm kind of paperish though without an armor providing HP and resistences. I might just use an alchemy on a 4L chestplate I have in stash. hopefully snapshotting with the tabula rasa this 4L will prove useful.

Right now I use a 4S 3L Bones of Ullr, though Windscream would be way better as I could use the skillpoints elsewhere from the passive tree but I would lose the second spectre as yet I have not taken the +1 spectre node.

For Flasks I have yet to see a single Bubbling or Seething flask. Right now I just have these.
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I might just try to sink some cash into getting one. Or just alterations (I have about 200), but I'm a bit uneasy to waste a lot of my currency on a single character.

So far I was using elemental weakness and flammability because of the BMs, but maybe I should switch to the Warlords mark you are suggesting. Might slow things down though.

thanks a lot for the explanations surVfate. I'm sure I might be able to improve things with my current gear/currency level.

By the way are you guys using Arc for EE? or it is even necessary? it feels like it doesnt accomplish much.

if anyone is interested here is my current gear. all suggestions are welcome:
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Passive tree
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAP0HYwj0DlwQdBSwFSAXLxdQGNsZhRmGHNwdFB6UJDwkqiepKPoppSpNKpgs6TGINuk5UjowPydFfkZxSVFKfUrITC1OKk5tVcZV1lcrWAdabVuvZOdnoGvbbRlvnnNTdPF5A30Yf8aApIIegwmFMod2j0aSzZLzkyeYrZuhoqOnCKdcrD-sR6yYtAy4k7w3v5fB88k9ykrPZdDQ2QvbC9xX3Q3jauss6-7yHvfX-oD60vzF
Last edited by NiNcsszaM#3766 on Dec 10, 2013, 11:16:09 AM
The FAQ spoiler sections seems to be gone. Is there a reason why you removed it or am I just missing something?

It contained things such as recommendations as to which gems to upgrade quality first, etc.

Can obviously look up the information myself, was just convenient and not sure why it was removed.

Thanks!
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Roglen wrote:
The FAQ spoiler sections seems to be gone. Is there a reason why you removed it or am I just missing something?

It contained things such as recommendations as to which gems to upgrade quality first, etc.

Can obviously look up the information myself, was just convenient and not sure why it was removed.

Thanks!


Am going to rework that section when i have the time. It had some inaccuracies because of the recent patch changes.

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By the way are you guys using Arc for EE? or it is even necessary? it feels like it doesnt accomplish much.


Can't think of any other good lightning spell that is quick to cast and allows you to target mobs easy.

it hits 3 times and 20% chance to shock per hit. I find it easy to stack shock charges on whites/blues with it for up to 90% more damage.

EE gives it -50%fire/-50%cold for some really nice dmg boost for bm and zombies's hatred
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
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Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Dec 10, 2013, 1:08:42 PM
Summoner is my most favorite build but i think the snapshot mechanics is not highly "end-game" viable compared to some other builds.

I have done 30+ temple maps with rare mods. I can beat most of them but I really don't want to do the temple piety with insane mods combined such as x% increased Monster Damage, unique Boss deals +x% Damage / unique Boss attacks x% faster, monsters fire x additional Projectiles, double boss.....etc

This is just like gambling that she is having a chance to wipe your army under 3s before you could get her killed. Without my minions I have to summon again starting from scratch. So now when I alced some difficult map mods I will leave the boss to my another character to finish.

I hope GGG could boost their hp or whatever that helps to avoid minions to be one-shot by crazy unique bosses
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Is Moonsorrow a valuable wand to buy for this build? Put Arc in it for blind? Or does that not work for bosses. Bit torn in between what wand i should buy. Mana regen% perhaps? Seems quite needed for AA?

I am thinking moonsorrow with fast cast + warp + arc. Just not sure if it works with blind and if i can affort to loose some stats like mana regen / max mana.

Edit: just read it'll be only a 9% chance, guess thats not worth it then? Or how does this work vs. uniques \ bosses? Because if you can cast it 10x in 4 seconds it's close to certain the blind works :P

Found a sidhebreath today and bought a +2 minion helmet. Running 4 auras now (vit\grace\purity\clarity rank1).

Currently level 67 and in 2 more levels i'll have my second spectre.

Finally getting to a point where i am only 80% frustrated on dying minions instead of 100%. Mostly because i have to travel to another zone again if i loose my BM.
Last edited by foojin#2576 on Dec 10, 2013, 3:04:05 PM
Perhaps a section for suggested leveling spells to use in lieu of summoning while at low levels.

Anyone have any suggests for such spells? My witch is having a little trouble.
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Yumad wrote:
Perhaps a section for suggested leveling spells to use in lieu of summoning while at low levels.

Anyone have any suggests for such spells? My witch is having a little trouble.


Perhaps this can help:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/522556

I leveled up my witch by spamming skeletons, never going to do that again. First toon...
Last edited by foojin#2576 on Dec 10, 2013, 2:57:06 PM
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foojin wrote:
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Yumad wrote:
Perhaps a section for suggested leveling spells to use in lieu of summoning while at low levels.

Anyone have any suggests for such spells? My witch is having a little trouble.


Perhaps this can help:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/522556

I leveled up my witch by spamming skeletons, never going to do that again. First toon...


Should have also mentioned that I am rather new, I cannot afford items.
Just thought I'd comment on the trap/mine nodes.

With my build, currently lvl 77, my specters have +112% damage and +155 life (haven't taken any minion damage nodes yet). When my build fills out the rest, sacrificing two 15% minion damage nodes for the 'Expeditious Munitions' trap/mine node near the center would be a no brainier.

Assuming lvl 20 gems with Trap (34% more), Remote Mine (49% more) and Minion Damage (imagining 150% minion damage vs 120% and 27% trap/mine damage)

Minion Damage spec
Multiplier = 1*(1+.34)*(1+.49)*(1+1.5) = 4.99

Trap Mine spec
Multiplier = 1*(1+.34)*(1+.27)*(1+.49)*(1+.27)*(1+1.2) = 7.08

Totally worth it.
Last edited by RedShades#2022 on Dec 10, 2013, 3:18:34 PM
any reason not using Minion Damage instead of Melee Physical Damage?

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