{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

Is 1 skill point really worth dropping the +40hp from the bandit quest on normal?

dont the mobs stay the same lvl of the zone u raised them in thus going to merciless with them being lvl 11? and are u sure the 30% flat dmg reduction from mana will work fine since u reserve so much mana u dont have any left to eat the 30% hit absorb?

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mattc3303 wrote:

new dominus fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99AkAoXywAA&feature=youtu.be

geez that might be the fastest Dominus kill I have every seen :O:O
seriously what other character build can do it faster???

I'm still pretty far from that. I have just got a Tabula Rasa maybe that might help but I still can only run 3 auras (discipline,purity,vitality). No chober or grasp or +2 helm. Though I have Sidhebreath and Bones of Ullr.
Kind of new on snappshotting also, and since zombies are dying quite fast I dont really see too much point in it.

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mattc3303 wrote:

If you look more closely their hp bars do move, its the power of regen and instant minion life flasks that is the magic behind their survivability. Throw in warlords mark/leach for even better tankiness. Go into my video section at dominus fight during the 1.0.0 update you see me taking much longer without CoD and positioning my character more safely.

Am level 88 in the video I believe.

5 Auras + Arctic Armor

IR is insanely efficient combined with grace with proper aura nodes its like wearing 2 endgame armor chest pieces at the same time. The other reason I went down there is for manashield which is another flat 30% reduction on everything. Am also positioning mysef for the life flask nodes for the future. Instant life flask is op and pretty core for the build.

Sorry, i'm being really dense. I went back through the guide and I just don't understand what the Cast on Death mechanic is. I don't believe I saw you die in the video, and the gem definitely says the character has to die...

As for the instant recovery flasks- aaargh. I've been tossing those because the life recovery amount is always so low. Gonna have to stop doing that ! I do have animation flasks and enabling life bars for the minions is really helpful. I had been spamming them indiscriminately now I'm careful to use them when necessary. Also I was burning a slot for a mana flask that i never used. duh. So now 3 animation flasks + granites.

The warlord's mark is really key. Right now I'm using life leech gems and those slots need damage gems ! So i'm using burning miscreations without fire pen, LOL! Those things are amazing. I can destroy kole without losing a spectre. They are going to be positively scary with fire pen.

where's the regen coming from ? rejuv totem, vitality aura, or both ?

ok- i'm slowly coming around to the idea behind IR. My problem is I really want evasion to work and it doesn't. Time to stop my denial. Someday GGG will actually bring it into balance with armor, but it's going to take a while, that's if they ever do. So time to work my way down... It'll be level 80 before I get there, darn.

sadly at level 70 i had a hard time solo'ing piety, but my build is _much_ less tanky (evasion + energy shield / no EB yet) and missing some key pieces, so I didn't feel too bad about it. i also screwed up my play on it because lunaris is so freaking easy. I run through it, get to piety and go at her head on, and die. Need to slow down and strategize.

Thanks again for answering everyone's questions. I really like playing a summoner before I saw your build, now I'm even more psyched to get it leveled up :-)

Fire Pen doesn't work on BMs. They have no intentions at this time to make it work.

CoD zombies are made by dying in normal.

Life Leech does nothing for BMs. They cannot leech with their burn.

Indeed, he was using Vitality, Rejuvenation Totem, and Seething Flasks of Animation.

I was thinking of making this setup..

2 bms 1 raised with conc effect 1 raised with increased aoe
1 support spectre, usualy envangelist

4 (2+minion helm) Mon'tregul zombies using faster attacks
4 (2+minion helm) Chober zombies using cast on death instead of faster attacks, so they hit hard, but still give me enough time to spam instant flasks.

*Also, if the 2h to 1h sword/mace snapshotting thingy works, i might go 5l my 5s chobber and just do summon the 4 normal zombies with a leveled empower...
If i do get the oportunity to get a 6l chober well.. i'd had think about what gem to put in there while on my way to get a clean pair of pants.

**Also(>.<) iam really stubborn when it comes to double curses, currently lvl 89, and ill probably head up in the passives for it at around lvl 91, so if ya know any other ways of summoning zombies that do decent damage w/o the fear of reflect i'd love to hear how.
I should probably drop vuln.. but i love the 40% damage/dot damage

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Moows wrote:

I was thinking of making this setup..

2 bms 1 raised with conc effect 1 raised with increased aoe
1 support spectre, usualy envangelist

4 (2+minion helm) Mon'tregul zombies using faster attacks
4 (2+minion helm) Chober zombies using cast on death instead of faster attacks, so they hit hard, but still give me enough time to spam instant flasks.

*Also, if the 2h to 1h sword/mace snapshotting thingy works, i might go 5l my 5s chobber and just do summon the 4 normal zombies with a leveled empower...
If i do get the oportunity to get a 6l chober well.. i'd had think about what gem to put in there while on my way to get a clean pair of pants.

**Also(>.<) iam really stubborn when it comes to double curses, currently lvl 89, and ill probably head up in the passives for it at around lvl 91, so if ya know any other ways of summoning zombies that do decent damage w/o the fear of reflect i'd love to hear how.
I should probably drop vuln.. but i love the 40% damage/dot damage

Not worth losing 2 extra supports to use a +2 helm. Better off doing something like

RZ > CoD > Multi-Strike > Faster Attacks > Melee Splash > Melee Physical with grasp zombies and normal zombies.

If for some reason they can't survive, replace Melee Physical with Empower. (Everything should be dead before this is an issue).

You don't have to waste points on the passives to get double curses. Windscream or Doedres is good enough. Once you have double curses you can do Warlord's and Vulnerability.

Yah was thinking of something like that, except iam using tabula to summon my spectres so zombies wont take up that spot, that leaves me the option to get a 6l 2h weap and snapshot zombies into that.. that would mean i'd have to get perfect offcolours on chobber so it could excel, and i had enough troubles just getting 3b 2r on mine.

That's my thoughts on zombies, need to test more, trying to make zombies as good as possible w/o encountering a reflect monster and oneshotting themselfs before i can do anything.

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Moose65 wrote:

Fire Pen doesn't work on BMs. They have no intentions at this time to make it work.

CoD zombies are made by dying in normal.

Life Leech does nothing for BMs. They cannot leech with their burn.

Indeed, he was using Vitality, Rejuvenation Totem, and Seething Flasks of Animation.

Fire pen doesn't work. That's annoying. I'm assuming that's why the build uses increased burning damage. Odd that increased burning would work but not fire pen.

Life leech does nothinge for BMs. That _does_ make sense, I should have thought about it. Actually I did, just didn't think about enough. Now that I have minion life bars turned on I would have noticed.

Wow the BMs are quite strong and I've got a really biffed configuration.

CoD : yes - so the idea is that you die - it makes a zombie - ??? - profit. I'm really missing something as to why that's a useful mechanic. Also too - you'll need a portal attached so you can get back to where you were. ooooooh, i get it. if there are no minions around to kill and create zombies - you can die to create them. LOL. Kind of annoying if you don't want to lose 10%. Took me long enough. haha. it'll be kind of important to have a portal gem too.

Vitality AND rejuv. ok- makes perfect sense. Time to start leveling both those gems. Looks like hitting those reduced reserve nodes sooner rather than later is best. I might have to take EB sooner rather than later too but that's a little trickier since my ES is key to my survivability right now. No way I can run 3 auras at this time. Part of why I'm not as tanky as i could be.

ok with all of these gems floating around the snapshot mechanics are starting to make more sense. I'm doing quite well without using snapshotting, but I'll start experimenting.

Thanks very much for your help.

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foxlin wrote:

I had a question about snapshoting. I have a 5-link (

)[0 0-0-0-0-0] and I just bought tabula rasa to be able to snapshot with a 6 link. In your video for 1.0.2 you are able to just place raise zombie and raise spectre in the first two slots of your default chest piece and they stay. when I do it, whichever gem is in the second slot's minion disappears. Do I NEED a 5-link that is like this: [0-0-0-0-0 0]? I haven't been able to find a socket combination that'll let me retain both zombies and spectres after changing chest pieces. Thanks!

It should work did u make sure your putting the zombie and spectre in the same location as u did in the tabula rasa? If not try from the bottom. Snapshot should work from socket position.

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Is 1 skill point really worth dropping the +40hp from the bandit quest on normal?

Its buried in the thread but I calculated at 1000 flat hp(from gear and level) and at 200% hp you will start benefiting more from 8% than from 40hp. of course as u get more flat hp u need less % hp to beat the 40hp.

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Sorry, i'm being really dense. I went back through the guide and I just don't understand what the Cast on Death mechanic is. I don't believe I saw you die in the video, and the gem definitely says the character has to die...

There is a lot of mechanics to take it don't worry, took a lot of experimentation to bring my self to this point. Take a look at my 1.0.2b build update video. I go into normal and die 6 times to raise 6 zombies beforehand.

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So now 3 animation flasks + granites.

Go 5 animation, you'll need them, trust me.

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ok- i'm slowly coming around to the idea behind IR. My problem is I really want evasion to work and it doesn't. Time to stop my denial. Someday GGG will actually bring it into balance with armor, but it's going to take a while, that's if they ever do. So time to work my way down... It'll be level 80 before I get there, darn.

I was skeptical at first as well. There is so much point investment but in the end you are way more tanky and you have much more gear freedom as u don't need to invest any if all into armor pieces.

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dont the mobs stay the same lvl of the zone u raised them in thus going to merciless with them being lvl 11? and are u sure the 30% flat dmg reduction from mana will work fine since u reserve so much mana u dont have any left to eat the 30% hit absorb?

Zombies have no levels. Spectre when raised at 65 for example will stay lvl 65 unless zoned into lower level difficulty. But will rezone back up.

As your mana shield I have 326 mana left over, 567 if I use discipline instead of hatred. Lets say I take 1k damage 30% of that will go into my mana which is 300. That means I only took 700 to my life. Saving myself from 300dmg is absolutely massive its like arctic armor on steroids that works for all damage types.

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zombies that do decent damage w/o the fear of reflect i'd love to hear how.

What...? how come when I run reflect maps I barely feel that my zombies take damage? Maybe its my habit of spamming animation and walking close to them with vitality?