{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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Allnamestaken wrote:

So, tested all the "More" Multipliers
I can deal with smaller aoe, but I would rather have IIR or IIQ on them, since I am a MF-nut, lol.

Same here. IIR makes such a big difference...It sucks I still haven't found a 6L on Domination though, running RS/ML/MD/IIR/AOE at present

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Moose65 wrote:

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Allnamestaken wrote:

Add Leer Cast to it, since you'll be using a tabula rasa for zombies...oh man...

One problem though, with 6L zombies, spectres will have to be 5L or vice versa, not good. It seems that we will have to make that dream of crazy socketed 6L chober a reality, lol

BMs will be more than fine as a 5L. You'll honestly just be using them to clear the trash to the bosses while your zombies do all the heavy lifting there.

Also, as a side note, seems like conc is NOT affecting BMs from the best that I can tell. Was getting 13 second kills on hillock with and without it.

How do you want to make 5l spectres without 2 handed weapon while having 6l zombies?

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How do you want to make 5l spectres without 2 handed weapon while having 6l zombies?

Tabula Rasa. Start with zombies, get them up. Remove all Zombie Supports. Insert Spectre + supports. Remove all Spectre supports.

Should be left with a 4L afterwards for whatever you wanna do.

Edit: As a side note, you will NEED Life Leech or Warlord's Mark if you use cast on death zombies. They will kill themselves on any reflect mobs or maps.

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Max damage output for them is now......

Raise Spectre > Remote > Trap > Burning > Min. Dmg > Min. Life.

Why do you value life so low? It works like a more multiplier in terms of damage and increases the Bms survivability.

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Caliginosus wrote:

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Max damage output for them is now......

Raise Spectre > Remote > Trap > Burning > Min. Dmg > Min. Life.

Why do you value life so low? It works like a more multiplier in terms of damage and increases the Bms survivability.

I don't value it low, but to be honest, it IS the weakest multiplier in the chain. Spectres have 10% Less life at level 20, so literally even Increased Burning damage outperforms it.

That wasn't necessarily meant to be the order of their usefulness, but its funny that it almost turned out that way. If you want a real order of BM damage supports, its......

Remote > Trap > Min. Dmg > Burning > Min. Life > Empower.

Naturally, you wouldn't skip Min. Life anyways because of survivability issues and that it is one of the top 5 damage supports for it. That said, it is the lowest increase of all the damage supports regardless. You could technically get more damage from dual midnight's bargains than you can from chober chaber, but then your trading survivability for damage.

Edit: I'm not seeing it as a "more" multiplier, since life = damage and damage = damage for these guys. Its a multiplier for their base life, which is no different than a multiplier for base damage. It simply has the advantage of also keeping them alive as well.

Also, if anyone is curious how much Empower helps, it's basically a 6% more multiplier in the end. They gain 2% more life and 4% more damage along with some minor mods like 2% more ES.

Edit Edit: Guess it would help if I showed some math why. 20/20 Min. Life is 64% Life. 64 * .9 = 57.6%. Increased Burning Damage is 59% at level 20.

Ok, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying this.

or the alternative for someone not interested in leveling anymore:
Spectre / Cast on Death / Minion life / IIR / IIQ / Life leech

my farming witch is lvl 89, i just find boring to map with defensive gear for 2 weeks to get a passive point

Ever considered Alpha's howl over a +2 minion helmet? Or is the bonuses from lvl 22 zombies just too great to pass up on?

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Baalat wrote:

Spectre / Cast on Death / Minion life / IIR / IIQ / Life leech

What do you get out of cast on death?

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Brophylicious wrote:

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Baalat wrote:

Spectre / Cast on Death / Minion life / IIR / IIQ / Life leech

What do you get out of cast on death?

304% MORE damage.