Water Hag is ANTI-FUN in hardcore. My only gameplay complaint after 500+ hours of PoE 2

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

I cant even respond to this guy because he makes no points against my point. He's just here to throw comments and try to bait me.. How is this guy not banned from forum.

keeps saying ~3 seconds. Didn't read that there is youtube vids of people dying in .5 seconds or less. Keep saying skill issue, didnt read I beat all the pinnacle bosses. ignoring the fact i'm saying you get put in situations you die no matter what sometimes, and that graphical glitches can cause them to not be seen. Literally how do people like this exist. This is an anti-fun mechanic in hardcore game mode. You haven't played hardcore you just keep saying just dodge - in my game mode it doesn't bother me. YOu dont have to think about it because if you die in your game mode you won't care. The scenarios where it kills you no matter what, you may not have run into yet because they are rare. No matter what you say, I'm not responding to you anymore. You're childish, your comments lack critical thought and constructive critism and proper references.

Maybe you are not hardcore enough.

i'm just trying to provide good feedback, not make this about me. I asked hc global their opinions on this before coming here to post and they agreed that the mechanics is bs. I did many searching, and found many people are also upset with this mechanic and I dont want other to quit hardcore because of this mechanic as well. It is prone to bs deaths and glitches/bugs and it takes away from ever being able to do an "easy waystone" to just chill sometimes. It's anti-fun.

I like this guys point of view as well: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3699262

You are incapable of dying to the orb in .5 seconds.

Its your internet or some other bug you are encountering.

In which case:

1)Report the bug to the proper section
2)Fix your internet/lag issues

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

You are incapable of dying to the orb in .5 seconds.

Its your internet or some other bug you are encountering.

In which case:

1)Report the bug to the proper section
2)Fix your internet/lag issues

"incapable" strong words to use A) in a game in early access, B) when I guarantee you didnt test every hag mechanic and rare/waystone affixes on the hag. Like how is critical thinking this hard bro....

Also again, it's anti-fun- no one is saying it's impossible to deal with - its NOT fun and it can lead to situations where u die no matter what, no matter how well made your character is and no matter how well you play to prevent those situations.. Critical think bro.. I know you dont play hardcore and haven't experienced this but think bro

i'm providing good feedback and you're just spitting nonsense - oh youre the same guy I said I wont respond to anymore, my bad

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

"incapable" strong words to use A) in a game in early access, B) when I guarantee you didnt test every hag mechanic and rare/waystone affixes on the hag. Like how is critical thinking this hard bro....

Yea I guess I havent tested if the entire map blows up on entry sometimes and one shots your character and chris wilson shows up with a fishing rod and t-bags your corpse.

Its timed, behaves the exact same way in POE1, just visually different.

File a bug report.

Half a second "lil bro" means you have no reasonable human way to react to something.

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

Also again, it's anti-fun- no one is saying it's impossible to deal with - its NOT fun and it can lead to situations where u die no matter what, no matter how well made your character is.. Critical think bro.. I know you dont play hardcore and haven't experienced this but think bro

Yea, again. Dying is anti-fun. Its not meant to be fun.

You died to:

1) A bug
2) Lag/Internet
3) Personal skill issue

Pick one. And approach it instead of asking for a full rework on something ONLY YOU have experienced so far on the forums.

NOONE has died .5 seconds to a drowning orb, except you I am afraid.


Critical think there lil nonssf hc bro

I added two random scenarios I found on youtube that come accross as anti fun. Sure they are somewhat avoidable but this is just what I found recorded, there are many more that are unavoidable.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gqBU78I5mHA - the bubble was covered by body of monster, and his brain didnt notice it until to late - not a skill issue could happen to anyone playing for a few hours
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RwmoRgFG6BQ - Blinking into a spawnning orb. Not skill based, because when you play 100s of maps that all have the same boring 1hko mechanic, stuff like this are bound to happen.

My friend just died to titan, he laughed and said he deserved it, but his water hag death made him feel like it was completely undeserved, it came through a terrain and hag was off his screen. never noticed.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

"incapable" strong words to use A) in a game in early access, B) when I guarantee you didnt test every hag mechanic and rare/waystone affixes on the hag. Like how is critical thinking this hard bro....

Yea I guess I havent tested if the entire map blows up on entry sometimes and one shots your character and chris wilson shows up with a fishing rod and t-bags your corpse.

Its timed, behaves the exact same way in POE1, just visually different.

File a bug report.

Half a second "lil bro" means you have no reasonable human way to react to something.

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

Also again, it's anti-fun- no one is saying it's impossible to deal with - its NOT fun and it can lead to situations where u die no matter what, no matter how well made your character is.. Critical think bro.. I know you dont play hardcore and haven't experienced this but think bro

Yea, again. Dying is anti-fun. Its not meant to be fun.

You died to:

1) A bug
2) Lag/Internet
3) Personal skill issue

Pick one. And approach it instead of asking for a full rework on something ONLY YOU have experienced so far on the forums.

NOONE has died .5 seconds to a drowning orb, except you I am afraid.


Critical think there lil nonssf hc bro

Ohhhhh ohh my
Well ok get your stopwatch out and time this Mr 0.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6yt3P4L5xM

I beg to differ
im in it at 21 seconds , im dead by 23 , and the slow would make it impossible to escape. Given that was a response to a palm attack , it was a one shot i was dead the second it cast, i just had to wait ... a second...

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Jitter912#4278 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

"incapable" strong words to use A) in a game in early access, B) when I guarantee you didnt test every hag mechanic and rare/waystone affixes on the hag. Like how is critical thinking this hard bro....

Yea I guess I havent tested if the entire map blows up on entry sometimes and one shots your character and chris wilson shows up with a fishing rod and t-bags your corpse.

Its timed, behaves the exact same way in POE1, just visually different.

File a bug report.

Half a second "lil bro" means you have no reasonable human way to react to something.

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

Also again, it's anti-fun- no one is saying it's impossible to deal with - its NOT fun and it can lead to situations where u die no matter what, no matter how well made your character is.. Critical think bro.. I know you dont play hardcore and haven't experienced this but think bro

Yea, again. Dying is anti-fun. Its not meant to be fun.

You died to:

1) A bug
2) Lag/Internet
3) Personal skill issue

Pick one. And approach it instead of asking for a full rework on something ONLY YOU have experienced so far on the forums.

NOONE has died .5 seconds to a drowning orb, except you I am afraid.


Critical think there lil nonssf hc bro

Ohhhhh ohh my
Well ok get your stopwatch out and time this Mr 0.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6yt3P4L5xM

I beg to differ
im in it at 21 seconds , im dead by 23 , and the slow would make it impossible to escape. Given that was a response to a palm attack , it was a one shot i was dead the second it cast, i just had to wait ... a second...

now imagine you get stunned on it, or the mobs are hasted, or the waystone is hasted, or there is a visual bug, or many other scenarios. Such a bs mechanic for a hardcore game mode. I been playing hardcore games for over 10 years, never seen such an unfun mechanic. The fact its in random maps its a huge issue, stuff like this belong in boss rooms, so you can hyper focus for the boss fight. However, no one wants to hyperfocus every second of every waystone, even a relaxing lowertier one.

thanks for the good post and showing a deminstration and using logic unlike other softcores that are coming in here and just trolling.

all the posts that have logic and critical thinkin/demonstration have supported this feedback.

I really want a GGG rep to address this. with some googling I found over 20 threads about this. The fact it's even debatable is a problem (its not even debatable, only softcore players are debating lmao)

look at this bs blink death like

another person in hardcore complaining right now that they died to a bs scenario with water hag in global HC

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

another person in hardcore complaining right now that they died to a bs scenario with water hag in global HC

So being "hardcore" means being unable to dodge a blue bubble. Nice to know.

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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RamenL#4657 wrote:

another person in hardcore complaining right now that they died to a bs scenario with water hag in global HC

So being "hardcore" means being unable to dodge a blue bubble. Nice to know.

The feedback is the mechanic is anti-fun in hardcore. It's not that it's impossible to dodge. It's easy to dodge when dodgeable (99.1-99.9% of the time).No one said it's hard to dodge. It does however leads to potential automatic death situations that are not a skill issue whereas, all deaths should be a skill issue. There should not be deaths that cannot be prevented where the player has made no mistake. This is leading to mechanic issue deaths. And it's not fun. It's very easy to dodge if it was the only factor. It's a low chance but it happens. Again no skill issue here, I beat all the pinnacle bosses. I am content, I just want my feedback heard by gg so game is better upon full release. Im excited for full release, your posts aren't making sense. stop posting. There is no way you're not trolling. There is no way another human can lack this much logic. Dying to arbitor/titan is fun. Dying to a strong rare mob is fun. Dying due to an uncontrollable scenario where u get stawned or have a bubble spawned on you when blink on cooldown, or a visual/graphic error. Is not fun. And even having to worry about this, every single map, in 100+ or 1000+ maps, is not fun. Very simple concept to understand. What's confusing you? It's not that hard to understand this message that it's anti-fun and leads to deaths that are not a skill issue due to rng such as blinking on a spawning orb, or orb being hidden etc.. How is this confusing you I really dont get it. How is this confusing you?