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I'm curious, if they somehow integrated the website slightly more making it so when you click the "whisper player" button it automatically opens the trade window, slots the item and you can now buy it for the listed price.
Would this just make everyone feel better?
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Posted byKarr285#4892on Jan 10, 2025, 2:17:24 PM
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I can totally understand, and I think we can find some common ground on what you say. However, this doesn’t take away from the benefits of the Auction House system (or let’s just say an in-game integrated trade system; it doesn’t necessarily have to be an auction house).
Even just the ability to trade items while being offline shows how valuable this feature is, in my opinion. Honestly, I’m no longer 16 years old, and I can’t be online 24/7. When I’m at work or spending time with my family, I still need to be able to improve my character by trading in the game.
But why are you explaining this to me? Do you think there are people who don’t understand the benefits associated with it?
Do you think I wouldn’t want that myself, that I sit in front of a computer 24/7, that I don’t have to work? Of course, I’d want that, but I know the downsides of this solution are worse than the positives, which is why I don’t support it.
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Jan 10, 2025, 2:18:51 PM
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I've red it and just because GGG says why they don't implement this feature in this game doesn't mean I should obey. I don't have to agree with the reasons they provide. Especially with their "easy trade" logic. I am the player. Not the devs. So, am I supposed to accept every explanation the company or developers give and just leave in silence? Well this is not what gamincommunity do.
No one is telling you to obey them, and you're welcome to try and convince them otherwise. I'm simply stating that they've given their reasons. Creating an auction house will only create another set of problems. For example, you will no longer find good deals to trade for because a bot will beat you to the deal every time.
I know it's frustrating that you message someone and they don't reply, but that doesn't mean you will find the same deal should there be an auction house, because someone else would've bought it already.
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Posted byzergy_eggy#4745on Jan 10, 2025, 2:20:58 PM
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Trade league already ruins the experience for anyone who uses it, and the auction house would completely obliterate the experience for every single casual gamer that ever installs PoE because the effort of getting an item the normal way (which, btw, right now is nearly perfect except that we need the craft bench or something minor to help tweak items) vs the effort of just going to the auction house every 5 minutes to buy a perfect item is completely skewed.
Trading is literally cheating, and it completely ruins the entire game. The only thing that makes it acceptable is the fact that it's a chore. Either keep trade the way it is, or completely disable it.
Lol as if… trading is crappy projects the casuals. Your logic is so flawed I’m not even going to try to help you understand how the real world works, but the casuals you want to protect aren’t going to like this game more because trading is crappy.
Yes, they will. The average player will just play the game and enjoy it for what it is. They will pick up items and use them and try to learn how to make a good character. They'll struggle at Geonor until someone tells them to check vendors for some cold resistance and once they get some they'll blast him and win and continue playing the game.
With an AH the solution will always just be to go buy items on the auction house. You will never have to look for items, unless the inflation is so bad that the AH will not be usable by anyone regardless (which probably will be the case). The balance of the game is going to be completely destroyed by the fact that everyone will have access to upgrades in just a few button clicks with no friction attached. Orbs will never ever be used for crafting because it will be meaningless compared to just putting items up on the AH and buying perfect upgrades.
You people simply do not understand game design at all and I am glad that GGG still has some sense when it comes to this.
Fantastic fairy tale but far too many unrealistic plot holes.
Vast majority will not use trade until maps as there is simply no need to trade during the campaign.
Orbs are used for crafting regardless - do you think the items I list for sale haven't been slammed with a few exalts or vaaled?
I'm baffled by how your fairytale scenario isn't ruined by the current trade system - besides the hard truth that if a new players goes to trade, not only will they struggle with the interface but will be ignored by hundreds of players when they try to buy that 1ex upgrade item because the in game vendor doesn't have anything they actually need.
No new player is out there buying 'perfect upgrades' because rares without dead rolls or weak rolls are selling well outside of their price range.
Largely in part because PoE2 crafting has already been so heavily gutted that exalts are borderline worthless for crafting - that's not an AH issue btw.
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Posted byMordgier#6997on Jan 10, 2025, 2:21:51 PM
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I've red it and just because GGG says why they don't implement this feature in this game doesn't mean I should obey. I don't have to agree with the reasons they provide. Especially with their "easy trade" logic. I am the player. Not the devs. So, am I supposed to accept every explanation the company or developers give and just leave in silence? Well this is not what gamincommunity do.
No one is telling you to obey them, and you're welcome to try and convince them otherwise. I'm simply stating that they've given their reasons. Creating an auction house will only create another set of problems. For example, you will no longer find good deals to trade for because a bot will beat you to the deal every time.
I know it's frustrating that you message someone and they don't reply, but that doesn't mean you will find the same deal should there be an auction house, because someone else would've bought it already.
Good deals on trades are already sniped by API bots.
An AH isn't going to create any problems that don't already exist.
They will solve the problem of thousands of fake lowball listings that are there just to trap newbies into underpricing their wares.
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Posted byMordgier#6997on Jan 10, 2025, 2:24:34 PM
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I can totally understand, and I think we can find some common ground on what you say. However, this doesn’t take away from the benefits of the Auction House system (or let’s just say an in-game integrated trade system; it doesn’t necessarily have to be an auction house).
Even just the ability to trade items while being offline shows how valuable this feature is, in my opinion. Honestly, I’m no longer 16 years old, and I can’t be online 24/7. When I’m at work or spending time with my family, I still need to be able to improve my character by trading in the game.
But why are you explaining this to me? Do you think there are people who don’t understand the benefits associated with it?
Do you think I wouldn’t want that myself, that I sit in front of a computer 24/7, that I don’t have to work? Of course, I’d want that, but I know the downsides of this solution are worse than the positives, which is why I don’t support it.
Because I wanted to earn you. Being divided as a community is not a good thing. Standing together is important. But I see that not on this one. I respect your thoughts. I hope by the GGGs actions, you and me both will be happy in the future. Thanks for your replies. Gl hf <3
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Posted byTheAriente#3728on Jan 10, 2025, 2:25:49 PM
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An AH isn't going to create any problems that don't already exist.
Good one.
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Jan 10, 2025, 2:25:51 PM
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An AH isn't going to create any problems that don't already exist.
Good one.
Feel free to list them.
Besides you know - Diablo 3 bad.
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Posted byMordgier#6997on Jan 10, 2025, 2:28:46 PM
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Feel free to list them.
Besides you know - Diablo 3 bad.
Where did I say Diablo 3 bad? Why are you still make-up things?
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Jan 10, 2025, 2:30:41 PM
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I think that between improving the gameplay experience - with relevant loot throughout the game (not just in high tier juiced maps) and a less slots machine crafting system - and an AH, GGG would go for the latter. Since, it would seem, their vision is for players to grind currency and socially interact with bots and RMT cartels for the gear they need...
I don't want an AH. I'd rather we didn't have trade at all, so that GGG can see how abysmal the loot and crafting options actually are in the game, when you don't have 1 million players pulling their resources together.
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Posted byhimenoinu#2580on Jan 10, 2025, 2:32:22 PM
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