We need to raise our voices for Auction House system

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Dxt44#4050 wrote:

I saw this in D3. Absolutely NOT

A AH is the same as the site is atm. EXACTLY the same. Only a in-game AH would 100x easier. No more waiting online, needing to be at the keyboard. Ppl posting fake prices to scam beginners out of thinking they should sell it that low.

We always had a AH. it was just a very crappy and outdated one. Your reasoning is just fear. Not logic.

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

Trading is literally cheating, and it completely ruins the entire game.

Play SSF then and let us 'cheat' in peace then. How those who like to trade play the game isn't your concern if you think trading is cheating.

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Lureahawk#2121 wrote:

It's the same as the site is atm. EXACTLY the same. Only 10x easier. No more waiting online, needing to be at the keyboard. Ppl posting fake prices to scam beginners out of thinking they should sell it that low.

We always had a AH. it was just a very crappy and outdated one. Your reasoning is just fear. Not logic.

Could you explain how you arrived at these conclusions based on what I said?

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zergy_eggy#4745 wrote:

GGG has stated clearly why they don't want to make an auction house. Read their trade manifesto and you might begin to understand why that's not a good thing for the game.

Incidentally, every ARPG that has a functional auction house is a dead game. But PoE that hasn't had an auction house for over 10 years have players coming back with every new league. Maybe you should try to understand where GGG is coming from first?

I've red it and just because GGG says why they don't implement this feature in this game doesn't mean I should obey. I don't have to agree with the reasons they provide. Especially with their "easy trade" logic. I am the player. Not the devs. So, am I supposed to accept every explanation the company or developers give and just leave in silence? Well this is not what gamincommunity do.

We already have the core functionality in currency exchange. I hate it when people dont react or when i find a really good item for cheap only to find out it is already sold already.

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TheAriente#3728 wrote:

I've red it and just because GGG says why they don't implement this feature in this game doesn't mean I should obey. I don't have to agree with the reasons they provide. Especially with their "easy trade" logic. I am the player. Not the devs. So, am I supposed to accept every explanation the company or developers give and just leave in silence? Well this is not what gamincommunity do.

I have the impression that many new players, encouraged by the simplification of certain elements, have misunderstood what kind of game this is.

No

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

Trade league already ruins the experience for anyone who uses it, and the auction house would completely obliterate the experience for every single casual gamer that ever installs PoE because the effort of getting an item the normal way (which, btw, right now is nearly perfect except that we need the craft bench or something minor to help tweak items) vs the effort of just going to the auction house every 5 minutes to buy a perfect item is completely skewed.

Trading is literally cheating, and it completely ruins the entire game. The only thing that makes it acceptable is the fact that it's a chore. Either keep trade the way it is, or completely disable it.

Lol as if… trading being crappy, time consuming, and complex protects the casuals gameplay. Yes, casuals are well known for loving the ssf league. The numbers reflect that I am sureeeeee.

Your logic is so flawed I’m not even going to try to help you understand how the real world works, but the casuals you want to protect aren’t going to like this game more because trading is crappy.

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maquino85#7657 wrote:

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

Trade league already ruins the experience for anyone who uses it, and the auction house would completely obliterate the experience for every single casual gamer that ever installs PoE because the effort of getting an item the normal way (which, btw, right now is nearly perfect except that we need the craft bench or something minor to help tweak items) vs the effort of just going to the auction house every 5 minutes to buy a perfect item is completely skewed.

Trading is literally cheating, and it completely ruins the entire game. The only thing that makes it acceptable is the fact that it's a chore. Either keep trade the way it is, or completely disable it.

Lol as if… trading is crappy projects the casuals. Your logic is so flawed I’m not even going to try to help you understand how the real world works, but the casuals you want to protect aren’t going to like this game more because trading is crappy.

Yes, they will. The average player will just play the game and enjoy it for what it is. They will pick up items and use them and try to learn how to make a good character. They'll struggle at Geonor until someone tells them to check vendors for some cold resistance and once they get some they'll blast him and win and continue playing the game.

With an AH the solution will always just be to go buy items on the auction house. You will never have to look for items, unless the inflation is so bad that the AH will not be usable by anyone regardless (which probably will be the case). The balance of the game is going to be completely destroyed by the fact that everyone will have access to upgrades in just a few button clicks with no friction attached. Orbs will never ever be used for crafting because it will be meaningless compared to just putting items up on the AH and buying perfect upgrades.

You people simply do not understand game design at all and I am glad that GGG still has some sense when it comes to this.

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Dxt44#4050 wrote:

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TheAriente#3728 wrote:

I've red it and just because GGG says why they don't implement this feature in this game doesn't mean I should obey. I don't have to agree with the reasons they provide. Especially with their "easy trade" logic. I am the player. Not the devs. So, am I supposed to accept every explanation the company or developers give and just leave in silence? Well this is not what gamincommunity do.

I have the impression that many new players, encouraged by the simplification of certain elements, have misunderstood what kind of game this is.

I can totally understand, and I think we can find some common ground on what you say. However, this doesn’t take away from the benefits of the Auction House system (or let’s just say an in-game integrated trade system; it doesn’t necessarily have to be an auction house).

Even just the ability to trade items while being offline shows how valuable this feature is, in my opinion. Honestly, I’m no longer 16 years old, and I can’t be online 24/7. When I’m at work or spending time with my family, I still need to be able to improve my character by trading in the game.