We need to raise our voices for Auction House system

+1 I am REALLY sick of friction being added to trading. Multiple times in PoE2 sellers asked me to wait for them and I am pretty patient so I did but come on! This whole nonsense of only being able to trade with people who are online......... Timezones exist hey?

+1 I absulutely want that too...

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TheAriente#3728 wrote:

We just can't ignore the fact that being forced to stay online to buy/sell items is unacceptable.

I really, really hate trading via websites. I hate using third-party programs to check prices. I hate sending tons of whispers and trying to keep track of which one is which every time. I just want to click on a vendor (like Alya), see the items listed by people, and click the buy icon. We are not living in the '90s. In a game released in 2024/2025, I should be able to enjoy the convenience of a trading system integrated into the game.

I don't get why you need to be online 24/7, just price your items so they sell and you can go offline after a decent time. I cannot take extreme examples that seriously when there is no consideration given to trying to solve the issue personally first. If there are no player solutions, then argument gets more weight.

"Price checkers" didn't exist until the last 2 years or so, we just learned what was valuable by hand and through game knowledge before that. Trade was also way smoother because the addons weren't clogging up the servers every 2 minutes from people spamming alt+d on every item they saw.

I get that you would like to enjoy the convenience, but I would rather not have that as trading should not become the most powerful method of gearing.

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TheAriente#3728 wrote:

I don't care about the "possible problems." GGG is a company that makes money, after all. If you can't solve those potential problems (for example, WoW has had this AH system for decades. don't tell me the "WoW is a big company, big game" fairy tale), then please don't throw the "easy trading is bad and here is why" bla bla manifesto at us. As a game company, you "have" to make things gamer-friendly, even if it creates new problems. Your job is to solve them.

WoW had no delay or tax on AH until a good 2 years into the game's life, nor were the auction houses even linked. One person, like I did, could corner the whole AH with enough starting capital. It was trivially easy, but Blizzard fixed it with a tax and with a delivery delay. Well, until they went full P2W that is.

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TheAriente#3728 wrote:

Because, as I understand it, PoE 1 is more for veteran gamers. But with PoE 2, GGG also wants new players and casual players to play their game. Well, let me tell you this: most of these players are already struggling to dodge boss attacks. Imagine how they would handle trading via a website. Most of them are even struggling with basic controls like using W, A, S, D, spacebar, etc. Now imagine them trying to figure out "count, weightsum, and" options on a trade website. I don't want to read and learn these types of things or waste my time just to buy an item. I JUST WANT TO BUY AN ITEM, MAN.

"If you search like this, the result will be better." "If you do it this way, it's the best." Bla bla bla. Even I, as a non-casual player, get frustrated with this stuff. This is just not PRACTICAL. Period.

So, if you could, please go look for the trading board consoles have (or at least had for the last few yuears) vs. what the PC site is right now. They do (or did) have asynchronous trading there but you also cannot search for anything specific and the main complaint was that it could take minutes to tens of minutes of scrolling through small stash pages finding the item you wanted. If you strip out all the trade mod filter options, then there is no way to implement anything but the console trade board. Power of the current system to find the exact item comes from the option of being precise with the search. You can't have "good filters" and "easy to use" without ending up with 10 000 results per search, which you now have to manually eyeball through to get the item you want.

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TheAriente#3728 wrote:

An auction house or whatever you want to call it—an in-game trade system—is the most important and urgent feature this game needs. Every single argument against this is neither logical nor practical.

And lastly, I laugh so hard when i hear "diablo had ah and look what happened" argument. GGG is a good company because they care about their players feedbacks. And they try. So that's why they can lead and show endustry how to make things right. I don't accept the idea of that they stuck in the past.

I disagree with "most important and urgent feature". I hope you accept that other people also have opinions, which might be opposed to your own.

Jonathan has stated multiple times that players are great at identifying problems, but bad at solving them. You have pointed the issue, we could now let them figure out a solution that works for everyone, not just part of the minority who trades ever.

From previous GGG Q&A's, yes, majority of people never trade. They do not know it exists or choose not to engage out of choice.

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People who like to trade directly with others can still do that. Also it's PoE2, not PoE1 anymore. This game needs more QoL.

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I hope you accept that other people also have opinions, which might be opposed to your own.

And I hope you accept that too. :)

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-1 absolutely not

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Arakki#6986 wrote:

I don't get why you need to be online 24/7, just price your items so they sell and you can go offline after a decent time.

lol you have to be online to sell items via trading website. what are you talking about? if i price the item and go offline nobody will pm me or etc. clearly you have no idea what we are discussing.

I hope they never add it.

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Actually, you know what... I'm pretty sure no one's watching... Aw hell:

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