Early Access Feedback - Game is dropping like a stone - Forum

I agree. They have work to do for sure. A lot of work. I hope it releases in a year with a ton of work done it. The crafting and gearing system is non existent. I hope they report that the crafting wasn't implemented for EA but I doubt that is the case. Getting the resistances to participate in endgame is horrible. I personally enjoy the trials but they need to make serious changes to make it good and fair (I play melee). Otherwise, I feel this game has a lot of potential. It's just upsetting to hear from vets that they essentially ignored years of feedback and advice. I personally won't be playing if it's a mindless gambling rng fest or if im forced to use trading for all of my gear.	Posted by MDini-87#6990 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:06:39 PM Quote this Post
" NickyRick#1268 wrote: " Azimuthus#1135 wrote: " dead? WTF? The game has 200k online There are games out there with 5k-8k online. Game is going great. Steam charts for EA are better than for many similar games on start (esp taking into account that standalone and consoles not included there). "Game is going great" While the game has already lost more than 60% of its players. Which, by the way, even at EA's launch, this game didn't have more players than Diablo 4 at launch (2.5m players). So, just expect a worse and more impactful drop in PoE2 than it was with Diablo 4. I hope the devs are enjoying their vacations, after releasing a game in such a horrible state, and simply going on vacation. Please provide the statistics your using that reflects poe2 losing 60% of its players. (Lets for now ignore it being ea release and christmas holiday, i will let u get away with those for now) You cant juse puke out made up nonsense and expect not to be challenged	Posted by Nyon#6673 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:13:22 PM Quote this Post
" Climet#7103 wrote: " NickyRick#1268 wrote: Which, by the way, even at EA's launch, this game didn't have more players than Diablo 4 at launch (2.5m players). That number is the total players online over a month at peak, NOT concurrent, D4 is a failure before it was created. Blizzard doesn't publish it's player data like steam, on steam peak players of D4 never surpassed 40k, which is less than 10% of PoE2. Lets be real here, blizz makes more money on MTX from d4 than poe2 has made from EA preorders. Magnitudes more. Immortal is bringing tens to hundreds of millions a month. Last edited by Karishin#7986 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:15:34 PM	Posted by Karishin#7986 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:14:54 PM Quote this Post
" Climet#7103 wrote: " z3mcneil#3966 wrote: And you're helping here how? Does GGG pay you to defend the game? Do you get gratification or ego boost attacking other posters who you disagree with? Fanboism is one of the most laughable things one can witness on the Internet. Other people criticizing a half baked and very flawed commercial product seems to personally offend you. You probably think anyone who dares to voice negative opinion about an entertainment product on the Internet is a nobody loser who doesn't know what he's talking about, you do you, nobody is forcing you to change your opinion. Whether it's musicians, filmmakers, athletes, or even game developers, some pretend they're pefect flawless beings incapable of mistakes and immune to criticism. IRL far more successful people than Jonathan or Chris laugh at posts like yours, nobody at that level think like the fanboys, some of them have in fact been laughing with me but now want me to stop wasting my time. They also want me to stop playing a niche video game that few people outside the English speaking world have even heard of, and I also might, not that anybody cares. I'm sure the game will flourish just like WoW and d3 and d4 did, when top streamers, top ladder players, tons of people deep in endgame and tons of poe1 veterans are all pointing out flaws, whilst people like you are here being its staunchest defenders. You are clueless, I have made more feedback posts relating to the game than you ever will, again you aren't providing any feedback, but regurgitating well known issues, with a comically aggressive tone. GGG is in a vacation and won't provide update within this period, it's been always like that in this time of the year. Also, learn to type better. And I am a PoE1 veteran. Nice vet but ain't seing no mageblood headhunter nimis or progenesis in any of your build. You somehow all have the same profile when defending the current state of POE2, either 1 character lvl 60 unable to finish POE1 campaign or ppl unable to interact with POE 1 economy and endgame crafting.	Posted by xPimousse#3057 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:22:00 PM Quote this Post
I think that the haters are now resorting to cheap lies is proof of how good POE2 is.	Posted by Hannariel#1578 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:39:44 PM Quote this Post
So many things that took years to get fixed in poe 1 are back in full effect. I thought the lessons learned from early poe 1 would carry over a bit but I guess not. Minions pathing is horrific. How did it take forever to fix in poe 1 and not work in poe 2? No convocation? I have to use a cheesy weapon swap?	Posted by Chunu0327#1834 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:46:55 PM Quote this Post
" Personal opinion? The game lost over 60% of its players, and the game had fewer players at launch than Diablo 4 at launch. Not 60. 578.000 steam peak, 8 dec. Right now 24h peak is 335.000. And this is steam only, which can be just ~50% of people, so x2 to all those numbers for full picture. And again, success is measured by how other games started and lasted for quite a while. For example Last Epoch started with 265k and after three weeks landed on 100k. That means its result is worse than PoE2. If we take POE1, the results are the same. It started with 34k and after three weeks it landed on 20k, which is similar to POE2 results (% same, just numbers are bigger). So, POE2 is doing alright. Not an "unpredictable success", but not a fiasco either. Especially for EarlyAccess (aka Big Beta) version. Let's take hugely popular EA - Baldurs Gate 3. It started with 74.000 on peak and after three weeks it landed on 15.000 which is super bad in comparison with POE2 EA results. And yet, later, after full release, this game turned out to be a HUGE success.	Posted by Azimuthus#1135 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:47:56 PM Quote this Post
" Hannariel#1578 wrote: I think that the haters are now resorting to cheap lies is proof of how good POE2 is. Agreed. The unfortunate part is that the mods are siding with them, and the same mods who put people in probation for saying "charming" to namecallers are refusing to moderate doomposters / hateposters / other trolling.	Posted by Fae_Lyth#6750 on Dec 26, 2024, 2:07:31 PM Quote this Post
honestly, just look at friends playing &/or groups you know. There's several people on my friends list not logging in for days. I have a group that are big Poe players and all but two have stopped a week ago. Poe 2 is awful. Maps layouts are almost all absolutely terrible, with an even worse game design around completing maps. And that's not the worse aspect of endgame mapping; traversing the atlas to find towers that you can juice is so damn bad. It's a huge time sink and so frustratingly boring. You have no crafting at all in this game, outside of Rog I guess. Ultimately it's all wishful thinking and fingers crossed. Campaign is absolutely ridiculous and totally pointless too. Such a waste of time, so much so I suspect a lot of people will never make a new character. And ascendency is the biggest fail too, making people wanting to make a new character even less likely.	Posted by Phukka#4656 on Dec 26, 2024, 2:07:44 PM Quote this Post
if you think its dropping players now wait until they release the next poe league and all the people who only play now because they dont want to play settlers for 6 months leave and go back to poe... Last edited by Lyutsifer665#1671 on Dec 26, 2024, 2:33:46 PM	Posted by Lyutsifer665#1671 on Dec 26, 2024, 2:32:22 PM On Probation Quote this Post