A plee to tone down the nudity

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BrecMadak wrote:

@eliasfrost: Nudity is not fine, cause there is none exist, we don't even have women humonoids dammit ! What are you talking about, are you dreaming or are you under the effect of something/someone ?

The game is already rated M easily. Do you even know what this means i doubt considering your speech. So if you are offended that easily better for you to seek for the other game but not this, that simple.

Edit: Before replying me be sure to read this.

Nudity is not fine because we "don't have it" in PoE? I'm not quite sure what to make of this.

What I'm saying is that there is no need to include nudity just for the sake of being nude. I prefer things to be for a reason and when there is none, it's just unnecessary.

In PoE, we have nudity, and I'm not saying that the coming content updates should not include nudity, what I'm implying is that the _level_ of nudity that is right now is just about right. We don't need nude, mutilated corpses or prostitutes roaming the town streets, if it doesn't serve any purpose.

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There's one problem with this. Diablo 1 had lots of nudity, yes, but it also had just as much male nudity as female. True, there were "Succubi" but there were also the corpses of nude men everywhere, often disemboweled or crucified, etc. Well, I am not even sure what I want is nudity, honestly, but I'd like to see a return to that kind of gore.

You gave an example of a game series that is exceptionally good at making an equal presentation between male and female portration. There are many other games that if they were made today, the sexism included would have been greatly reduced, showing that we are taking steps forward and not backwards, and that game is Gothic 2, as well as Daggerfall.

And then it comes to what kind of purpose the nudity serves. This is a very good article that discusses just what the difference is:

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/11/nerds-and-male-privilege/

One thing that truly annoys me is todays stereotypical woman. Always slender and stylish.
The female is depicted as young and beautiful, tiny, fragile and weak. But ofcourse graceful.


Where are the INTERESTING archetypes?!
The old crone, the hag, the wretched, the brute, the ugly, the mad or the wicked?

Where is the knightstyle brutish warrior? Or plain twohanded barbarian?
Where's the wretched dualwielding trickster humpback illusionist?

And where's the notion females can easily illustrate these archetypical characters?

It's just making us smaller when everyone gotta conform into being a slender beauty to appeal to the male sexuality.
Geez, it's a game, even here we gotta be bombarded with this idiocy.


I want to experience interesting characters. If I want something to stimulate me sexually, I look elsewhere.

Actually, I despise most portraits of women in films, since they are almost always exclusively there for the wrong purpose! Not to further the dialogue, to broaden the plot, to tense the story. No, to make the guys gasp a little. Which absolutely makes the story worse!! It puts an unecessary element into the enviroment, which is the story itself.
Because those characters practically NEVER has good dialogue written to them and they're SUPPOSED to act stupid and careless as in that's another weakness appealing to bloated male ego. Which is APPALLING to me and detrimental to the plot!

I HATE to be manipulated in this aspect, since there is virtually no defense. I always fall to a womans charm and I assure you, they can look very very different from each other.



The characters in this game suffers the same fallacy.
But it's not rampant, it's just present.

If I'd make a game, the characters would be interesting. Not cheezy.

Deafjester, I totally agree...

And yet, I don't think "Sexy" begins to describe the Witch or the Ranger...

Just saying...

The witch clearly has scoliosis, and the ranger is going for a quasi-butch thing.

Where's the accomplished matriarch?
The revered and dignified priest? The arrogant archwizard? The foul necromancer?
Where's the subtle thief?
The cunning assassin?
What about the champion?
The paladin, noble warrior?
The berserker...?

The agile warrior? Even that's missing, because it's always about the boobs.
The sooner you realize that there is something missing, the faster we gonna get cool characters.

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dashgalaxy86 wrote:

Deafjester, I totally agree...

And yet, I don't think "Sexy" begins to describe the Witch or the Ranger...

Just saying...

The witch clearly has scoliosis, and the ranger is going for a quasi-butch thing.

*Snicker*

That's just because animation and sculpting is delicate and difficult, it takes a long time to get a good model. But the intention is there.
All the models need work, but the fundamentals are good.

Deafjester, I don't think "the" intention is there at all. Check carefully ranger's boobs, if you find them you need to visit your gf.

Well.. Whatever.

Both females look roughly the same, small and young.
All the males look very different.
Old distinguished, young wicked, large brute and cunning fighter. They have very different sizes too.
Main differance between the females is hair coloration.
Not to be rude to the sculptors and animators.


Perhaps you should examine yh more closely?

Hey maybe the female marauder or templar will be better!
I think they are all young because the old and weak people didn't make it to the shore...

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wiggin wrote:

Hey maybe the female marauder or templar will be better!
I think they are all young because the old and weak people didn't make it to the shore...

The templar class crushes this argument.

Not really, men are naturally stronger than women! Also there is always an exception to a given rule. Not to mention the nature of my former post...

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Some of the posts here are creeping very close to being attacks on the OP rather than arguing against his opinions

I apologize about that, I said what I wanted to say anyway.

I realize this is ripe for flaming, so I will personally leave it at that.