This patch is frankly unacceptable.

For the most part, I do not mind the idea of making changes like the cast on trigger setups. I see how strong it was in videos, so I can see the need.

However, I think it needs more tuning to be a viable utility/support.

After the patch, the trigger is so few and far between, that it has no place in many builds.

Perhaps adjust the energy buildup of non-rare/magic/uniques by 20% or 30%.

In my specific case, it would bring it from 1 trigger every 7 packs to 1 every 4 or 5.

I had no use of it on rares or bosses after the change, so maybe that isn't adding up right?
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kuciol#0426 wrote:
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pattw555#0071 wrote:
“It’s EA, they’re going to make changes”

That’s fine, but they’re selling the game to the public. Everyone calls their games “EA” now, doesn’t mean a thing honestly. Are you trading MONEY for access to your Game? You’re selling a game, the “it’s EA” mantra you repeat to yourself before you fall asleep at night means squat compared to that.

Now, on to the solution, all they have to do is a find a way to occasionally give respecs to characters that were bricked by nerfs - during EA only (as they won’t do big sweeping nerfs like this post launch… right… RIGHT???).

Honestly that leads into the second issue, trust. The way they’ve handled balance changes just a few days into EA leaves a lot to be desired, I’m not sure I’d sink my time into a game until they can convince me they won’t continue behaving this way.


Thats not how it works. EA is not what you want it to be. Even full wipes are not out of question. Changes will happen and will happen often. Thats the entire point of EA in the first place. Its not for you to play the game, its for you to test it and dev to fix it.


What you describe is called beta and alpha, not early access. Early access is a fairly stable and ready to play game that is lacking the full features and content of a launch game.

Nerfing stuff isnt even the problem. Its the god awful cost of it. Its far too much to have to respec. On top of that this nerf isn't even well thought out. Its not a nerf its taking something that was fun and removing it from the game. What they did was make CoX completely useless. Sorc really does not much damage without it anyways. At least not frost. Their skills arent really damage.

Maybe you have different opinion when they change your build to useless and you have to come up with 100's of thousands of gold to just make yourself playable again. If they are going to constantly gut builds like this then they should completely remove the cost of respeccing until builds are balanced to the state they want them in.
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Kamstew#1014 wrote:
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Kamstew#1014 wrote:

This most recent patch to effectively remove trigger gems from the game is not what POE is about. POE is supposed to be a game about making cool builds that exploit the mechanics in cool ways. POE is not a game about 50 different ways to "self cast skill to deal big hit".

My friend you are talking about POE1. They made POE2 a completely different game for a reason. I know it's hard to believe but THEY WANT IT TO BE THAT WAY!


I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just 10IQ or what but this has nothing to do with the game being hard. It’s about the meta being interesting but I’m getting the impression that you don’t even know what I mean when I say that.

Where did I say ANYTHING about "game being hard" or not? Learn to read!
German saying: Schönheit und Funktionalität in Sekundenschnelle zu ruinieren, ist dem wahren Dilettanten keine Herausforderung!
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top2000: "let me bend your rear for a moment exile"
i get that its an early access and that they will tweak things etc etc. Thats fine. Whats not fine is that they completely break a build (probably the only viable bloodmage build) so that you cant play it anymore. I used my gold to respec 2 days ago. Now I'm sitting on 10k. I need like 100k+ to a) respec and then b) even more gold to respec even more to come up with a new build. I don't want to talk about jewelers... so I am forced to reroll
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kuciol#0426 wrote:
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pattw555#0071 wrote:
“It’s EA, they’re going to make changes”

That’s fine, but they’re selling the game to the public. Everyone calls their games “EA” now, doesn’t mean a thing honestly. Are you trading MONEY for access to your Game? You’re selling a game, the “it’s EA” mantra you repeat to yourself before you fall asleep at night means squat compared to that.

Now, on to the solution, all they have to do is a find a way to occasionally give respecs to characters that were bricked by nerfs - during EA only (as they won’t do big sweeping nerfs like this post launch… right… RIGHT???).

Honestly that leads into the second issue, trust. The way they’ve handled balance changes just a few days into EA leaves a lot to be desired, I’m not sure I’d sink my time into a game until they can convince me they won’t continue behaving this way.


Thats not how it works. EA is not what you want it to be. Even full wipes are not out of question. Changes will happen and will happen often. Thats the entire point of EA in the first place. Its not for you to play the game, its for you to test it and dev to fix it.


What you describe is called beta and alpha, not early access. Early access is a fairly stable and ready to play game that is lacking the full features and content of a launch game.

Nerfing stuff isnt even the problem. Its the god awful cost of it. Its far too much to have to respec. On top of that this nerf isn't even well thought out. Its not a nerf its taking something that was fun and removing it from the game. What they did was make CoX completely useless. Sorc really does not much damage without it anyways. At least not frost. Their skills arent really damage.

Maybe you have different opinion when they change your build to useless and you have to come up with 100's of thousands of gold to just make yourself playable again. If they are going to constantly gut builds like this then they should completely remove the cost of respeccing until builds are balanced to the state they want them in.


Yes, EA is essentialy beta that you opted into. They can even remove entire skills at that point. I dont care how offended you feel. It is what it is, you should have known what are you getting into. Its not headstart, we wont even keep our progress at the end (those characters will be in separate league). Thats what EA is, its not release and dont try to make it as such. It is not only possible but expected that a lot more skills will be changed. Some may get op, some may get borderline unplayable. Thats just how it is with EA. Again even full wipe is not out of question, thats what EA is for, not for you to enjoy the game. It is unfinished, unbalanced and bugged as hell. Thats what you opted into and you can only blame yourself for not knowing. Oh and i play freeze blood mage. I got affected but i knew what im getting into.
Last edited by kuciol#0426 on Dec 12, 2024, 3:22:38 AM

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