DELETE SANCTUM

"Ultimatum" = Trial of Chaos, I guess?

Trying the Trial of Chaos now on my Titan and getting absolutely destroyed. I went in the first time at level 38 and died in room 2. Went back at level 42 or 43 and made it to room 3.

I can't imagine making it through all 10 rooms on my Titan. Is it your intention that I should HAVE TO respec and completely rework my entire build to complete this trial? Is it your intention that I should complete the trial at level 50 or 60 when I have sufficient points and resources?

I've been reading through the comments on this thread and it was encouraging to see that most of the comments are in line with my reactions. I'm glad to learn it's not just me.

I was fine with the first Ascendency Trial (though I think it needs some tweaking) but this second Trial is bonkers. At this point, I don't know if I'll ever be able to complete it, and I don't want to try again after 2 dismal failures.

I'll probably keep trying every few levels, but if it doesn't seem to be getting better then I'll probably bench my Titan and try a different class.

REALLY hoping this Ascendency system dies in EA.
+1. Probably never touching the game if this is how ascending works in the future.
+1

Ultimatum trial also suck as well
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"Ultimatum" = Trial of Chaos, I guess?

Trying the Trial of Chaos now on my Titan and getting absolutely destroyed. I went in the first time at level 38 and died in room 2. Went back at level 42 or 43 and made it to room 3.

I can't imagine making it through all 10 rooms on my Titan. Is it your intention that I should HAVE TO respec and completely rework my entire build to complete this trial? Is it your intention that I should complete the trial at level 50 or 60 when I have sufficient points and resources?

I've been reading through the comments on this thread and it was encouraging to see that most of the comments are in line with my reactions. I'm glad to learn it's not just me.

I was fine with the first Ascendency Trial (though I think it needs some tweaking) but this second Trial is bonkers. At this point, I don't know if I'll ever be able to complete it, and I don't want to try again after 2 dismal failures.

I'll probably keep trying every few levels, but if it doesn't seem to be getting better then I'll probably bench my Titan and try a different class.

REALLY hoping this Ascendency system dies in EA.
You only have to beat level 4 but level 4 is a boss and its pretty strong.
Yep fuck that shit.
And while you are at it, remove ultimatum too.
Ascending absolutely sucks in PoE 2. None of these league mechanics should have been put in the game as mandatory, it's amazing how they didn't know how much people dislike sanctum and ultimatum. Hoped they had balanced it with todays patch, but sadly not. Guess it's gonna be reading patch notes for me for a while, getting fed up with playing this slow, unfun and frustrating attempt at a game. See you later.
Last edited by LootySmurf#4310 on Dec 12, 2024, 3:39:14 AM
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Please delete sanctum out of the game. It's a niche league mecanics to begin with, it's awful to force your entire player base to play that. Imagine having to do X heist to have your ascendency ? Yeah no one wants to do that. Please Jonathan rework ascendency put back the lab idk but get rid of sanctum.
I'm probably not the only one thinking that am I ?



So if you think about PoE 2 Ascendancy Trials Compared to Original PoE
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1) Sekhemas And Ultimatum, rely on pure random vs. skill and general game knowledge of mechanics in lab.

This is just disgusting, how should i Ascend if success is just a matter of Random, is it how i become worthy?


2) Denying general well balanced lab desin with good learning curve vs. ...idk
"Systems that was popular back in the days?"


actually ill put it like that, making 2 systems that was originally created as farm content that was designed for Other game that required the knowledge and builds to do specifically that content and wasn't suitable for just everyone\every build.

And you may say, hey there is to valid options for example for melee and ranged you can chose wisely were to die and repeat, to learn that you can grind here for "Profits" that are not related to your character at all, back in the days we had enchants, and the reason you come back in lab and learn it was to upgrade your build with enchant that is suitable for your build, and here, try and error for Ultimatum rune at wave 4? Or random chest loot in sanctum?

It is designed purely for grind, with no other reason or intent, that can be used later in game progression.

I just hope its a plug for later change, otherwise its just horrible and meaningless waste of oportunity...

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1day after i posted that.
Thoughts, on wiki there is quite all saying for me part
Trial of the ???
The third Ascension Trial (themed around the Karui) has not yet been released. However, it has been suggested that it may be similar to The Trial of the Ancestors


im not a fan of all that videos from Devs spoilering me the content i will have so im slow on that.

And here what we have, potential 3 Ascendancy ways Sanctum, Ultimatum And Trial of the Ancestors? oh god

making core character gameplay as ex Leage farm content dedicated being done in a specific way?

And who will tell me That picking 1 of 3 is universal for every build?, designed not being universal, for starters at all?

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Additional thoughts why Lab was good as first implementation of Enchants

You had your helmet and skill you use,
this simple concept of two things made it excellent for everyone, with so many possibilities of combinations,
and the reason to return to lab to upgrade Your character with Your Helmet with Skill You use

And later, with enchant is no more we had gems striped from heist.
Gems oh yea, well, now Lab is just Grind designed for everyone
not related to you at all, and this concept is picked for poe 2

I already mentioned above that Sanctum and Ultimatum success based on pure random it self, why My character progression is tied to it?
Will "The third Ascension Trial (themed around the Karui)" be base on random that i will face Phys slaming Kahuturoa? or Tawhanuku Erasing my ass with chaos? so it will Die and repeat To learn EX Farm content to know that i can grind it for "profits"

Continuing on that, This 2 and potential third "Content" What does it Give me as character in game?

All that content is based on Uniq rewards from Last boss, why its called a trial?

Also, according to wiki You need 3 pieces To kill Trial master and and a sanctum boss for last ascendancy, in what way they are equal?

The idea That Ascendancy is Harder to get now is completely fine, Sure they design all them so you can be fine with 1 2 or 3 trials, but why all this Grind content is part of main campaign?
Before, in original PoE you had straight Path through campaign and Labyrinth as As step to your progression, it could be difficult at some point, but its Main intent was To Ascend you and not to Teach you how to grind 3 Ex leage content.
So with that you had 2 parts of your experience in game as a beginner:
Main path that teaches and shows you mechanics in game, bosses, locations etc.
and Trials That is should be you First "Pinacle" content witch is also just first step to Final End game for beginers. At least it should be as i see it
And it was quite simple, you learn from additional mechanics with each trial. And later on maps You had 6 trials, with knowledge combined you had Last Isaro at its full.
And thats it, then you had it all. The End Game.
But now, trying to bring the endgame to Main campaign, as a concept is just annoying.

I simply don't understand Why we Have Reused content pitched as Core gameplay.
Okay they picked 3 Lore parts 2nd act as Sekhema 3rd is based on vaal, and potential Karui on third.
So its just the story all around them, as Lore. But reusing League mechanics as an excuse?
6 month of early accsess? i hope only thing they do now is Designing 3 Differend New Trials Worth For Sekhema Vaal and Karui, coz These 3 is just Dead by design.

And if it will be same on release, then first thing they should do is 3 straight leagues replacing it with New things that are reliable To story and not to a RNG it self.

Original post here, https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3618006
The honour mechanic is just unfair. While some builds with shield and evasion cake walk the sekhema trials other chars with recoup and a focus have almost no chance of completing it. I mean why is recoup even in there, if you can not ascend with it?
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Yeah, I just tried to do Sanctum after the patch... I'm level 75 doing a level 60-something trial just to get my god damned 3rd ascendancy... I made it to the last boss on the 3rd floor with 3 out of 4k honor and like, I think 27% honor resist? Literally one shot as soon as the scorpion went underground lmfao

Wasted 40 minutes of game time and got abso-fucking-lutly nothing

Which person over GGG decided this should be the requirement for ascension??? They should be fired and publicly shamed.

I can't even play my character anymore the energy nerf killed my invoker frost that relied on comet to freeze caster in order to not get shotgun so. I'm forced to reroll
Sanctum etc was balanced for POE 1's meta, it absolutely sucked unless you played a handful of meta skills, minion or totem builds. Now people are finally experiencing how poorly balanced some of the league mechanics were if you're not following OP builds. Parking PoE 2 for a while til the next decent content drop and patch to see what direction they take the game.

Also A2 colossus 1shot bug and hitboxes needs fixes.
Last edited by AmpegV4#2473 on Dec 12, 2024, 4:09:49 AM

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