Kinda sad what other people here are saying about POE 2

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Woozywyvern#0338 wrote:

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Azusa101#6815 wrote:

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Xerxal85#2968 wrote:

So you want to take a great game and turn it into another game where you stand still holding down the mouse button until everything is dead filling the screen with stupid colors and skybeam loot?

Why wouldn't you think that's what people wanted? The logic here is puzzling to me. The most popular ARPGs in history have all been blasters that enabled and encouraged exactly that type of gameplay. PoE1 is the most extreme example, and has been a very successful game for a decade. Why would you think going in the complete opposite direction was what the players wanted?

This seems like a very common, and strange, argument being made. Where does it come from, this idea that the people who play these games wanted something completely different than the popular game that preceded this one?

Doesn't it make more sense to assume that if people like a thing, that if you give them more of that thing, they'll be happy?

Totally agree. Its bizarre to me that POE2's predecessor, the game it literally takes its name from, the game that success has enabled POE 2 is this style of game and yet people say it is not wanted.

I'd say it's because, while Poe 1 has many exquisite qualities, like the build sandbox, mood, music, style, crafting (erm heh), freedom, etc etc, it was far from perfect. I find the area mini bosses in PoE 2 a great improvement over meeting some area unique enemy in PoE 1, just to stand next to it and watch the health bars being chipped with single DPS skill or sth. I find dreading a single mechanics on the floor in PoE 2 an improvement over ignoring a whole disco of them in PoE 1, those should always do sth to you for the gameplay to function. Etc

From my experience in the feedback forums, it is mostly the "PoE veterans" who trash PoE2 at every opportunity, while also complaining about the game being "too difficult", while also using every opportunity to point out you're a new player (so the new player isn't struggling with the thing the "veteran" is struggling with, nice), and you are trash because you haven't spend 5032432432 brilmiltrillion on this game.

If you enjoy PoE2, you inevitably hate PoE1, and there is no way to enjoy both, according to them.

Is that really the veterans fault, though? It's not as if the outcome of this situation was unknowable, the ARPG fanbase has seen this exact scenario play out before. Yes, the two halves of the now split PoE community are going to end up hating each other, there's no avoiding it. Every change, every content release, will be examined by each side through the prism of either being a winner or a loser. The toxicity caused by this is still a plague on the Diablo community nearly 13 years after Diablo 3 was released.

People are going to be invested in a thing they've spent in some cases tens of thousands of hours on. That shouldn't be a shock. If you release a much anticipated sequel that doesn't feel like it respects the preceding game at all, those people are going to be upset. Also shouldn't be a shock.

Imagine if Blizzard released World of Warcraft 2, and it was a MOBA, or maybe more on the nose, another souls-like. I don't think it's a big mystery how most of the old men whose loyalty made WoW what it is, would feel about that.

People are just looking for reasons to be raging about.
It's very en vogue.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

People are just looking for reasons to be raging about.
It's very en vogue.

It's easier to hate than to put in any kind of effort, especially with those who were already nestled in a certain game state.

I was hard complaining about the UI change many many years ago in League of Legends, almost like a fool but we mature.

It's a new game I get it but some parts of the game feels really bad. No drops for whole act is just ridiculous. Stats of items are really boring at 45ish lvl and many times it rolls with total BS. I dont see anything of value to farm other than unique bosses. curently stuck on trial of chaos. Its ridiculously hard for me. Debuffs are insane and build breaking. It feels like every hit is an oneshot with no way to get a better gear.



Im new to the poe 1 about 2,5k hours and an enjoyer of arpg genre.

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Hajda#0089 wrote:

It's a new game I get it but some parts of the game feels really bad. No drops for whole act is just ridiculous.

You got 0 drops in an entire act? Not a single white, blue or yellow gear?
The thing I get 2-3 of per pack?

People are just fucking blatantly lying, it's unreal.

I played POE 1 for 2.000 hours, and when i am playing POE 2 - i see that all that i fill uncomfortable on POE 1 - made right in POE 2.

I finished 3 acts on Monk Invoker and 95% bosses i killed on first attempt and in under 1-2 minutes. I crafted quaterstaffs a lot from whites and made a good ines for my build. I dont think the game is difficult, i think peolpe dont want to think on builds, etmisation and so on.

Now i am plaing Ranger with poison and this is even easier - bosses go down like 30 sec.

POE 2 is the best ARPG so far.

After mapping for a few days now, its feels actually good. Its been a while since I give attention to not dying. During the campaign, I actually died more times when looking at trade chat for gear upgrade (trade site not yet online that time) compared to doing bosses.

Give it time and people will learn to like it. As you can expect, GGG is responsive with feedback and they are adjusting what they think will be better for the game.

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Azusa101#6815 wrote:

If you release a much anticipated sequel that doesn't feel like it respects the preceding game at all, those people are going to be upset.

This is not directed at you. Just a general note.

That is the thing that annoys me the most.

It was communicated for years, that PoE 2 is NOT PoE 1. It was said again and again that it plays very differently. If someone expected PoE 2 to be like PoE 1 with better graphics, it is 100% on them, not on GGG and not on PoE 2! They just ignored a clear message and were therefor uninformed.

PoE 2 is a fantastic game. And it is annoying to see so many people cry that it is not like PoE 1 when it never was meant to be. If anyone misses PoE1 ... go play PoE 1!