Path of Exile 2 Early Access Launch - Live Updates 🔴

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Mentoya#7912 wrote:

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snegov061#6043 wrote:

I'm starting to believe in the dead internet theory after good comments about poe 2

This is GGG's "vision":
1) A couple of builds are playable in the game
2) only today the trade was fixed
3) huge meaningless layouts
4) dead endgame (20% of poe 1)
5) everything is impossibly slow
6) No drop at all
7) a stupid rolling system
8) difficult acts
9) No move skills
10) just a couple of unique items that are playable
11) variability of skills and builds (if all are balanced) 30% of poe 1
12) the economy is killed by dupes and abusers
13) the most profitable is to reset bosses of Act 6
14) There is no canonical drop. What's to be happy about? Just mirror and headhunter?
15) Pure party game (much more quantity and rarity in the party, you can resurrect party members on bosses)
16) 0 crafting in game. Just Regal orb + Ex

I sincerely don’t understand how, despite having data on Ruthless in PoE 1, they made no conclusions.
What does GGG do? They nerf builds, even though they promised not to touch anything at all.

Regarding your point on GGG promising not to touch, I disagree, Jonathan had an interview before launch and he said that if a skill was stupidly broken that they would nerf it, so far that's the only nerfs that have done is stuff that was broken and wasn't intended to be that way in the first place.

Regarding endgame, there's still plenty to do. Plenty of maps to run and a couple of league mechanics etc... Your post comes across as if this was an official game release, not early access. If something is early access, you need to judge it as early access. You aren't being fair because you are judging it as an official complete game release, not early access, and there's a huge difference. Your comments would have been fair had they come after the official game release, but now they just come across as a whiney player who's mad because the game isn't in the state that you want it to be in yet. Come back after the official release and then if everything is still the same, you'll have every right to complain.

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FluffyMagoo#2814 wrote:

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Mentoya#7912 wrote:

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snegov061#6043 wrote:

I'm starting to believe in the dead internet theory after good comments about poe 2

This is GGG's "vision":
1) A couple of builds are playable in the game
2) only today the trade was fixed
3) huge meaningless layouts
4) dead endgame (20% of poe 1)
5) everything is impossibly slow
6) No drop at all
7) a stupid rolling system
8) difficult acts
9) No move skills
10) just a couple of unique items that are playable
11) variability of skills and builds (if all are balanced) 30% of poe 1
12) the economy is killed by dupes and abusers
13) the most profitable is to reset bosses of Act 6
14) There is no canonical drop. What's to be happy about? Just mirror and headhunter?
15) Pure party game (much more quantity and rarity in the party, you can resurrect party members on bosses)
16) 0 crafting in game. Just Regal orb + Ex

I sincerely don’t understand how, despite having data on Ruthless in PoE 1, they made no conclusions.
What does GGG do? They nerf builds, even though they promised not to touch anything at all.

Regarding your point on GGG promising not to touch, I disagree, Jonathan had an interview before launch and he said that if a skill was stupidly broken that they would nerf it, so far that's the only nerfs that have done is stuff that was broken and wasn't intended to be that way in the first place.

Regarding endgame, there's still plenty to do. Plenty of maps to run and a couple of league mechanics etc... Your post comes across as if this was an official game release, not early access. If something is early access, you need to judge it as early access. You aren't being fair because you are judging it as an official complete game release, not early access, and there's a huge difference. Your comments would have been fair had they come after the official game release, but now they just come across as a whiney player who's mad because the game isn't in the state that you want it to be in yet. Come back after the official release and then if everything is still the same, you'll have every right to complain.

As someone already in maps, the game feels no better. People that say it's just Early Access, are wild. They've had over 10 years of experience on PoE1, they've tried to introduce ruthless, archnem, slow down loot, all these things being bashed right now, etc. They had multiple PoE2 betas where the general concensus was that all the stuff that is being slammed right now, is bad and should be different. This IS for the most part, the game that GGG wants to exist - the didn't stumble here, they have intentionally pushed for this for years and ignored feedback and the things that made their game great in exchange for 'the vision'. Barring bug fixes and slight tuning, but those don't change the entire gameplay loop.

The criticism is perfectly valid for a game company with 10+ years in the exact same genre, who took the parts of their previous game that garnered mostly dislike and decided to funnel that into a new game. Also ignoring the fact that GGG is experienced, have already had constant feedback on how this current gameplay loop is generally despised, and so on - early access changes are like I said previously, generally just bug fixes and slight tunings. Not overhauls.

PoE2 is easy, it's just boring and tedious and unrewarding. The exact opposite of the reason PoE1 is considered the GOAT. It keeps happening to ARPGS, Last Epoch, Lost Ark, D4. All these games introduce slower gameplay loops to make things 'more impactful'. I'm a bit cynical so it seems more like an excuse to try to increase playtime for the average gamer dad, so they hopefully buy more microtransactions during their slow(nothing wrong with this, enjoy your gameplay kings) playthrough. Let me be clear, even with all this. PoE2 is cool, but I'm letdown because it's not a game I imagine playing multiple seasons for - which is the intent of these live service ARPG games. It feels more like a one and done game, which they definitely don't want so why in the world did they make it feel so bad.

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snegov061#6043 wrote:

I'm starting to believe in the dead internet theory after good comments about poe 2

This is GGG's "vision":
1) A couple of builds are playable in the game
2) only today the trade was fixed
3) huge meaningless layouts
4) dead endgame (20% of poe 1)
5) everything is impossibly slow
6) No drop at all
7) a stupid rolling system
8) difficult acts
9) No move skills
10) just a couple of unique items that are playable
11) variability of skills and builds (if all are balanced) 30% of poe 1
12) the economy is killed by dupes and abusers
13) the most profitable is to reset bosses of Act 6
14) There is no canonical drop. What's to be happy about? Just mirror and headhunter?
15) Pure party game (much more quantity and rarity in the party, you can resurrect party members on bosses)
16) 0 crafting in game. Just Regal orb + Ex

I sincerely don’t understand how, despite having data on Ruthless in PoE 1, they made no conclusions.
What does GGG do? They nerf builds, even though they promised not to touch anything at all.