I think the developers don’t read the chat, but... (First Impression)

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Bosscannon wrote:
No I dont see it surviving a single ball from ushaper in that pob.
I also dont know how I am supposed to prove a negative to you.

Rest of your post not worth engaging with.


Then you dont know how to use POB. It can survive one.

You dont prove a negative, you prove an initial claim you have with something:

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Barely squeezing by on hit based fireball after 200 hours of farming necessary gear


This seems to be a reoccurring talking point with you, of providing a generic claim with no evidence behind it, but asking for evidence to the contrary.

Art went through and created something to fit the parameters of what you asked for.


You then moved the goal post to standing in mechanics you shouldnt.

And then dont know how to use POB to even check that you are also wrong about shaper balls as well.


Its astounding to me how many times someone can be wrong about something, but unable to concede.

Mash the clean
I guess when you are not as mechanically gifted you can make changes to the build to make it tankier. I usually just give those builds enough defence to not immediatly fall over but you can do as you please. Like, you know, add some training wheels I guess lol.

Again, you are quite demanding while acting unreasonably. What's up with that?

Edit: I just want to add that it seems you have not a lot of experience fighting uber bosses. E.g. you'd change Quartz Flask to Sapphire Flask for the Uber Shaper fight. You can also just add Steelskin and hit that occasionally or use Automation support...

In essence, you PREPARE for uber fights. Mapping setups are different from bossing setups.

Like, you expect ME to provide you with EVERYTHING but you don't even do the courtesy to go into this discussion with an amicable approach. This reeks of entitlement.
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
Last edited by ArtCrusade#4438 on Sep 26, 2024, 11:33:05 AM
Switch config to uber pinnacle boss.
Switch to shaper ball.
Hit damage exceeds max hit. 13+k vs 11+k.

Tell me what im doing wrong.

When fallacious arguments aren't convincing comes the biased moderation.
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ArtCrusade wrote:
I guess when you are not as mechanically gifted you can make changes to the build to make it tankier. I usually just give those builds enough defence to not immediatly fall over but you can do as you please. Like, you know, add some training wheels I guess lol.

Again, you are quite demanding while acting unreasonably. What's up with that?

Edit: I just want to add that it seems you have not a lot of experience fighting uber bosses. E.g. you'd change Quartz Flask to Sapphire Flask for the Uber Shaper fight. You can also just add Steelskin and hit that occasionally or use Automation support...

In essence, you PREPARE for uber fights. Mapping setups are different from bossing setups.

Like, you expect ME to provide you with EVERYTHING but you don't even do the courtesy to go into this discussion with an amicable approach. This reeks of entitlement.


"You are not supposed to get hit by those... I made the builds to my standards for what I require to kill ubers and this is perfectly viable."

Google translate:

"I know the fight well enough and am mechanically gifted enough to dodge everything so its fine".

Why are we discussing defenses at all? Everyone should just become Ben. Easy.





When fallacious arguments aren't convincing comes the biased moderation.
Last edited by Bosscannon#3325 on Sep 26, 2024, 12:34:50 PM
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Mashgesture wrote:
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Bosscannon wrote:
No I dont see it surviving a single ball from ushaper in that pob.
I also dont know how I am supposed to prove a negative to you.

Rest of your post not worth engaging with.


Then you dont know how to use POB. It can survive one.

You dont prove a negative, you prove an initial claim you have with something:

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Barely squeezing by on hit based fireball after 200 hours of farming necessary gear


This seems to be a reoccurring talking point with you, of providing a generic claim with no evidence behind it, but asking for evidence to the contrary.

Art went through and created something to fit the parameters of what you asked for.


You then moved the goal post to standing in mechanics you shouldnt.

And then dont know how to use POB to even check that you are also wrong about shaper balls as well.


Its astounding to me how many times someone can be wrong about something, but unable to concede.



"You then moved the goal post to standing in mechanics you shouldnt."

This is pure nonsense and I never did anything of the sort. Player must make effort to dodge boss attacks. Always. But assuming you will never get hit by any is not a defensive layer. And you misconstruing people arguments like that seems to be a reoccurring thing with you.
When fallacious arguments aren't convincing comes the biased moderation.
I didn't say none of that. I said that if you don't like the "dont get hit 4head" playstyle you change it up a little and that I made the build to MY personal liking.

Bruh.
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
To add defenses to that I would have to cut out damage and there is precious little of that already OR it would need an overinflated budget so ill just slap "barely squeeks by, is unfun and isn't worth playing" label on it.

My opinion about the games endgame past tier 16 and normal pinnacles being a failure and/or a joke remains.

Just dodge everything is not a fitting game design for an arpg. Neither is just zdps.
When fallacious arguments aren't convincing comes the biased moderation.
Last edited by Bosscannon#3325 on Sep 26, 2024, 1:16:20 PM
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Mashgesture wrote:
So far this league I made...

3 builds that dont have any guide at all out there. And they can do all content in the game.

Bleed ES
Bleed Heavy Strike
Bleed pure physical spectres


Just gotta know what you're doing!

Like Johnathan said in the interview, "then yes in this case it becomes a skill issue"



Bleed Heavy Strike - Just gotta know what you're doing!

You got me there, I have no clue what you're doing.
When fallacious arguments aren't convincing comes the biased moderation.
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Bosscannon wrote:
To add defenses to that I would have to cut out damage and there is precious little of that already OR it would need an overinflated budget


Tell us that you don't know how the build functions without telling us that you don't know.

The damage for the budget is already pretty good and it wouldn't even be hard to slap more damage and survivability on it without going broke.

You don't need several hundred millions of damage to kill in a reasonable time but if I recall correctly you never beat any of the Uber fights and not even regular maven, so you wouldn't know what actually zpds numbers look like on those fights.
Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun.
Last edited by Pashid#4643 on Sep 26, 2024, 3:28:30 PM
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Bosscannon wrote:
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Mashgesture wrote:
So far this league I made...

3 builds that dont have any guide at all out there. And they can do all content in the game.

Bleed ES
Bleed Heavy Strike
Bleed pure physical spectres


Just gotta know what you're doing!

Like Johnathan said in the interview, "then yes in this case it becomes a skill issue"



Bleed Heavy Strike - Just gotta know what you're doing!

You got me there, I have no clue what you're doing.

Yea I dont understand what you are trying to say here.

Mash the clean

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