Retaliation just saved Melee MEGA BIG TIME

YOU WILL SPAM THIS SRS GET IT?

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

You want to know why Sirus beam doesn't matter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rw5JXcTmOQ
This clip pretty much 1 to 1 demonstrates what happens with slams now as well.

It matters on HC and competitive PoE. On SC you can afford to get hits but in general even playing melee you're trying to avoid incoming damage though your build allows to tank sht in the face.

It also doesn't really matter in HC either as you just tank it like a man cause your character is built for it or you dodge it cause you're aware of the potential risk. More the later case for the competitive part as you go in on a shoelace budget to obviously rush the kill.
But people will probably return back to the first best DoT meta ability after this league so they genuinely won't have to care about retaliation skills anyways or melee being harder to master.

Will be funny to see if Vaal Breach or Penance Mark see use this league for people wanting to proc blocks.

57% CDR to retaliation skills + 20% from quality, 35% chance when you use one for another to become available. Have one skill that you'll cast, and have your other skill be Vengeful Cry to cheat it out. On glad you'll have 70% chance to cast it again with anoint to possibly always have it up. It will be interesting to see what people cook up.

My personal view is enjoy some of this stuff because it won't last, I play Groundslam most leagues and the buff this time is pretty hilarious if you were semi OK before.

Its getting on for quad damage, better qol and the radius now covers more than the screen (definitely getting into the is this really melee camp)

I'm sad i'll have to share gear for once but i'm gonna enjoy this for the league just like Legion.

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Pashid wrote:

It also doesn't really matter in HC either as you just tank it like a man cause your character is built for it or you dodge it cause you're aware of the potential risk. More the later case for the competitive part as you go in on a shoelace budget to obviously rush the kill.
But people will probably return back to the first best DoT meta ability after this league so they genuinely won't have to care about retaliation skills anyways or melee being harder to master.

You're not talking from a point of experience or statistics, as HC has 3x more melee classes playing than SC.





You're just 100% wrong in every way.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

My personal view is enjoy some of this stuff because it won't last, I play Groundslam most leagues and the buff this time is pretty hilarious if you were semi OK before.

Absolutely.
Melee was fine, not good but fine, but with retaliation and new exert gems it's very OP.

I know I might enjoy Exsanguinate more, but seeing how rediculously OP slams are with old items - without adding any of the new implicits or tinctures or unique affixes - it'd be missing out that one time when melee is completely imbalanced.

This does come with a small asterix though. That if you go basic Reave/Cyclone/Cleave no slams & no retaliation, you will be losing out about 5x DPS.

if you block once, does it activate all retaliation skill ?
like can you with one blok then activate all socketed retaliations once ?

You still have to - A: Know it's active and B: Press the button in the window of time its active.

So you have to always be looking at your skill bar and not the mobs - no thanks.

Lame design.

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superbomb1967 wrote:

You still have to - A: Know it's active and B: Press the button in the window of time its active.

So you have to always be looking at your skill bar and not the mobs - no thanks.

Lame design.

Huh didn't it say there is an icon above your head if a retaliation skill is ready to use?

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Mechanics

While a Retaliation skill is Usable, an icon will appear over your character's head to show that skill can be used.

found it on poewiki

you cant exert retaliation skills so they are bad you can get earthsatter do same ammount of dmg as retaliation skills