All problems and strategies this and previous league were caused by Magic Find - time to remove it

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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Ayxera wrote:

No. MF is as old as the game, if you don't like MF then do something else for money. It is a myth that you can't make money without MF, just watch Empyriangaming for example to find ideas.

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Ayxera wrote:

Also have you considered that maybe they are actually strong builds?

1) Being old doesn't make it good or correct.
2) Having a strong build doesn't change the fact that a strong build with MF is always going to be better than just a strong build.

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Ayxera wrote:

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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Ayxera wrote:

No. MF is as old as the game, if you don't like MF then do something else for money. It is a myth that you can't make money without MF, just watch Empyriangaming for example to find ideas.

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Ayxera wrote:

Also have you considered that maybe they are actually strong builds?

1) Being old doesn't make it good or correct.
2) Having a strong build doesn't change the fact that a strong build with MF is always going to be better than just a strong build.

So your idea of mf being bad is because you shouldnt gimp your build to get more loot, but then you acknowledge that the builds are actually good. I don't understand where you want things to be at.

Perhaps stop watching the streamers that do MF and instead concentrate on making your own money.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

What are you on about? I am one of the richest solo players every league start LMAO.

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goetzjam wrote:

I mean OP is right, wish they would do something about MF.


What about adjusting drop rates of items but disabiling mf\quant for a league as a test? Its been a very long time since they've done something like this but it was possible in the past.

For "obvious" reasons they would have to disallow pulling race rewards into temp leagues too.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

....and yet you create a post like this railing against one way for less-than-perfect players such as yourself to improve their own "solo" experience in the game. Presumably, YOU are not using these so-called abusive mf systems to gather your wealth, otherwise you likely wouldn't be bashing them, so you are living breathing proof that you are NOT shoehorned into mf, you are NOT forced in any way to use mf to gather massive amounts of wealth.

And if you ARE using them....who in the world are you posting this for? Who are you fighting for?

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

I mean OP is right, wish they would do something about MF.


What about adjusting drop rates of items but disabiling mf\quant for a league as a test? Its been a very long time since they've done something like this but it was possible in the past.

For "obvious" reasons they would have to disallow pulling race rewards into temp leagues too.

They've already done that with the "rare monsters have rewards" scarab which disables MF gear. They clearly understand that the dynamic can go overboard, but some how are so confident that they'll be able to balance it during the league.

And so we now sit on 19 Divine Headhunters and 1 Divine squires - the legendary iconic items belong to the dump tab now.

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goetzjam wrote:

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

I mean OP is right, wish they would do something about MF.


What about adjusting drop rates of items but disabiling mf\quant for a league as a test? Its been a very long time since they've done something like this but it was possible in the past.

For "obvious" reasons they would have to disallow pulling race rewards into temp leagues too.

They've already done that with the "rare monsters have rewards" scarab which disables MF gear. They clearly understand that the dynamic can go overboard, but some how are so confident that they'll be able to balance it during the league.

And so we now sit on 19 Divine Headhunters and 1 Divine squires - the legendary iconic items belong to the dump tab now.

The scarab doesn't solve anything because it uses a slot, rather then affixes on gear.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

No need to worry about me - engage with the argument.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

No need to worry about me - engage with the argument.

Well I do have to worry about you....because you are fundamentally wrong right from the start. MF is not the problem, it isn't this league and it wasn't last league. The PROBLEMS that resulted in these crazy loot explosions that you see other people getting are:
1) Party Play bonuses
2) League mechanics
3) Atlas Passives
and how the 3 of these things interact to create 20x+ more loot. NONE of these have anything to do with "mf" as a stat.

A random player popping on their best mf gear and farming is not going to see more than 2 or 3x loot gains at MOST.