No hardcore events? What?

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Baharoth15 wrote:

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Zrevnur wrote:

Which of my posts here prior to https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/3445771#p25137524 are you referring to?

It's not just your posts.

So you found none of my posts in the correct timeline yet specifically named me.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

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<snip one sided misrepresentation of this threads questionable posts, maybe try reading the whole thread in the correct timeline>

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Baharoth15 wrote:

And then you wonder why people are shitting on HC/HC players. Well, try reading them a few more times, maybe you'll find out.

I have a fairly good idea. And its not what you are saying.

Edit: changed quoting

[Removed by Support] If this is an attempt to push it on others who started it sorry, but doesn't work. I just quoted you because you were pondering why people were hating on HC like that.

/edit Ok so now i can't even name the guy who made the post without it getting edited, well this whole timeline you talk about started with the second post of this topic which is now edited for whatever reason. Don't know what to write at this point for this post to make any sense without it getting censored -.-

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Baharoth15 wrote:

[Removed by Support] If this is an attempt to push it on others who started it sorry, but doesn't work.

Dont know what you mean.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

I just quoted you because you were pondering why people were hating on HC like that.

What I wrote was an attempt to analyze the situation. Using this as an explanation for the situation is logically incorrect due to the forwards-only flow of time. Its not possible for my post to have influenced a situation that existed before my post.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

/edit Ok so now i can't even name the guy who made the post without it getting edited, well this whole timeline you talk about started with the second post of this topic which is now edited for whatever reason. Don't know what to write at this point for this post to make any sense without it getting censored -.-

I dont disagree with you if you are saying that some HC players/supporters write inappropriate posts. Its your onesided representation here that I do not agree with. Most of the potentially questionable posts are responses to potentially questionable posts. And the first few "anti HC/player" posts here were not responses to the post you mention.
And this is a thread about HC. Somehow it attracts a lot of SC players/supporters. Why do you/they care? Whats the benefit of there being no HC events to SC players?

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Would likely have played in 1+ SSF HC events. SSF SC maybe. But SC trade only, zero appeal, I dont want to compete with team Havoc. I dont understand why they even make prices like that for SC trade events. Its likely going to be decided by teams. Yet prices are for individuals.
Edit: I dont care about the prices myself but there being prices gives rise to competition which makes it more interesting.

I usually would be quite sad. However, considering they balance the game around Ben and company I personally feel HC is unbearable for anyone with a life outside gaming. I will be sticking with SC SSF from now on, I have simply accepted the fact I am not good enough and don't have the time for that shit anymore.

Also, I have realized that POE HC is not HC at all. They all just logout the moment something goes wrong its ridiculous. Play SC and do the hardest content try not to die, dont run away or log out..... try to survive it feels way more HC than HC itself due to the logout macro useage which for some unknown reason GGG allows ?

Plus the events are 1 week long, most people work for a living....... so who cares really.

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CAPSLOCK_ON wrote:

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Moonlight666X wrote:

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CAPSLOCK_ON wrote:

HC is a waste of time die to some random bullshit and back to campaign + lose equipped items to standard who has time/patience for that crap?

who wanna waste time on brainless cookie clicker which sc is?

normal people do

People enjoy the game differently, it has nothing to do with being normal. SC trade is just as crazy to me as HC sounds to you.
I think they are on right track in POE2 where if u die in boss fight they heal. The 5 portal thing is what makes HC so much more interesting. That said, the game has become increasingly harder making HC pretty unbearable for your average gamer.

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Jgizle wrote:

- 96k people have reached 90+ on Ancestor Softcore
- 14k people have reached 90+ on Ancestor Hardcore

- 19k people have reached 90+ on Ancestor SSF Softcore
- 9k people have reached 90+ on Ancestor SSF Hardcore

- 5k people have reached 90+ on Ancestor Ruthless Softcore
- 1k people have reached 90+ on Ancestor Ruthless Hardcore

- 12.7% in HC
- 32.1% in HC
- 16.7% in HC
And you think these numbers are what we can ignore? It is several thousands of players.

The second important thing is

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Softcore has high demand, but lower supply, thus a higher price. Hardcore has low demand, and high supply, thus a cheaper price.

Sure no! HC economy is not affected by inflation so hard as SC and especially Standard. You can't "print" currency on HC as you can do it on SC playing coockie clicker simulator. The cost of each currency, especially chaos orbs are lower comparing to HC. But the price gap between top tier items is higher on HC because not everyone can farm uber bosses.

Anyway, it doesn't matter in terms of resources needed to run the event on different leagues. When you claim HC is dead or close to be dead, how much resources GGG need to have to run the separate event? Even if only ten persons will participate in the november runs, is it expensive in terms of hardware / software resources? It doesn't matter how much Divine Orb or MB costs, we aren't talking about logout macro, we aren't talking about "random oneshots". Only about free CPU time and RAM.

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These days people don't want to deal with the BS death's and just enjoy the game. Whether or not you are in a trade economy or not.

HC is not the place for new players.

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Jradlot21 wrote:

Also, I have realized that POE HC is not HC at all. They all just logout the moment something goes wrong its ridiculous.

No, not all do that. Have also seen streamer RIPs that wouldnt have been RIPs if they would have.

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Jradlot21 wrote:

try to survive it feels way more HC than HC itself

Not my experience. Dying in SC can be really annoying though. No wonder all those complaints about the 10% penalty.

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Jradlot21 wrote:

due to the logout macro useage which for some unknown reason GGG allows ?

The part that I dont understand is that they could at least make it so that you brick the instance that is logged out from. Or at the very least heal the boss or some such. The current state is just wrong. And one of the bad parts is that apparently they design bosses around this "feature". Why dont they even try to fix it? No idea...

hoho them mods.

Somewhat relating maybe about whether popularity of HC matters or no:
There are separate events for consoles. I just looked at the ladders for one of the consoles for Delirium event last year. And my impression is that PC HC was several times more popular than all the 4 ladders of that console. Didnt try to check it in detail though, just looked at the first pages. Anyway so the point here is that popularity alone is unlikely to be "the reason" why GGG doesnt do any HC events.

90% or more of HC players in POE use macros. Even SC players use them, the most popular streamers straight up say the game is balanced around them.

I don't understand why it's allowed. I also don't get why HC players want to use them. It's not HC if you run away in scary moments.

I used to play HC, I'm actually having way more fun pushing SC SSF as hard as possible. There is so much more you can do and you can make it as challenging as you want to. It feels more like HC and I haven't logged out once. I also have only died once since switching to SC.

In HC you are so very limited to what builds you can do, what content you can do. Also, to get anywhere you need to be a God gamer, or you simply have way to much time on your hands. All for what, bragging rights ? Playing video games all day is not healthy, nothing to brag about.