im tired of spending time to prepare content to run

bump
more QOL please

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

tota is so unbalanced
i lost an 8d tattoo and 5d in today
i cant do anything about getting oneshot... but thats another thing

people are still crying about tota balance? it's very clear you're supposed to play a tota build [/quote]

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

where is the proof of someone crying???

if any other mechanic had the content maps have
but without the tedious and boring preparation of ingredients, i'd gladly run it all the time without any break
i mean other games offer that to, poe is the only game that needs preparation to run content lol ... even with alch and go i still need to prepare tons of maps to run.
nothing is earned but waste of time by those tedious micromanagement tasks ...

First of all...he is directly quoting you lol so there's your "proof".

Second of all: in 10 pages of posts you have yet to name a single other game that does what PoE does, but better. You have NAMED other games, but not a single one does the endgame quite like PoE does, with better quality and greater speed. Alch and Go mapping takes less than a second per map, similar to running GRifts or Last Epoch things or <insert name>, and provides VERY similar average loot gains.

The DIFFERENCE PoE offers is the ability to super-size your endgame experience with many different options. But what you keep willfully ignoring in your arguments is that the solution is already there: just alch and go. There is absolutely no need to super juice every single map just to turn a profit. Alch-ing is perfectly fine for the vast majority of players; the only time it really falls off is if you are dealing in mirror-tier and 100s of divines. There simply aren't that many players that fall into this category, and if it happens to be you than you likely HAVE the time and currency to spend on prepping maps for ultimate rewards.

Given the current speed of mapping in this game, some QoL that I would actually recommend would be for sextants to last a LOT longer. 3(4) uses is quite literally 3-5 minutes of playtime. It really should be like 5-10x more maps per sextant. Additionally, maybe find some way to weave multiple maps together into 1 "run": be able to alch the entire set at once. This type of mapping should NOT be compatible with corrupted maps.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

First of all...he is directly quoting you lol so there's your "proof".

Second of all: in 10 pages of posts you have yet to name a single other game that does what PoE does, but better. You have NAMED other games, but not a single one does the endgame quite like PoE does, with better quality and greater speed. Alch and Go mapping takes less than a second per map, similar to running GRifts or Last Epoch things or <insert name>, and provides VERY similar average loot gains.

The DIFFERENCE PoE offers is the ability to super-size your endgame experience with many different options. But what you keep willfully ignoring in your arguments is that the solution is already there: just alch and go. There is absolutely no need to super juice every single map just to turn a profit. Alch-ing is perfectly fine for the vast majority of players; the only time it really falls off is if you are dealing in mirror-tier and 100s of divines. There simply aren't that many players that fall into this category, and if it happens to be you than you likely HAVE the time and currency to spend on prepping maps for ultimate rewards.

Given the current speed of mapping in this game, some QoL that I would actually recommend would be for sextants to last a LOT longer. 3(4) uses is quite literally 3-5 minutes of playtime. It really should be like 5-10x more maps per sextant. Additionally, maybe find some way to weave multiple maps together into 1 "run": be able to alch the entire set at once. This type of mapping should NOT be compatible with corrupted maps.

endgame in d3 and last epoch doesnt punish you for not juicing and preparing something like poe does, alch and go can work if you run 100 maps an hour
i dont need to do that in any other arpg i can think of except torchlight 2 maybe. so *shattering sound* there goes your argument

where does it specifically say that i need a voidsphere or ensnaring arrow build to play this mechanic?
if by tomorrow only heist runner builds would be the only viable option to run heist contracts
there would be an outrage...

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jsuslak313 wrote:

people are still crying about tota balance? it's very clear you're supposed to play a tota build

again where is the proof that im crying?? like wtf is with people like you thinking someone is crying because they give feedback on whats bad
its called "feedback&suggestions" not "suggestions"
im not here to provide "only" solutions for developers who dont even read the forum lol

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

endgame in d3 and last epoch doesnt punish you for not juicing

W8 since when you can do any juicing in d3? and does LE have any map juicing too?

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Nomancs wrote:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

endgame in d3 and last epoch doesnt punish you for not juicing

W8 since when you can do any juicing in d3? and does LE have any map juicing too?

if you'd actually read what i wrote and not chose everything word by word to try and counterargue against it you'd understand what i wrote

"i dont need to do that in any other arpg i can think of except torchlight 2 maybe" thats what i wrote
of course if there is no juicing possible there is nothing to juice right?

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

endgame in d3 and last epoch doesnt punish you for not juicing

W8 since when you can do any juicing in d3? and does LE have any map juicing too?

if you'd actually read what i wrote and not chose everything word by word to try and counterargue against it you'd understand what i wrote

"i dont need to do that in any other arpg i can think of except torchlight 2 maybe" thats what i wrote
of course if there is no juicing possible there is nothing to juice right?

stop trying to twist it - you wrote those games dont punish you for not juicing, like you would have ANY choice there. False examples prty much invalid your whole argument.

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Nomancs wrote:

stop trying to twist it - you wrote those games dont punish you for not juicing, like you would have ANY choice there. False examples prty much invalid your whole argument.

werent you the one that came up with the entire "juicing" topic?
all i mentioned was that in diablo3 i dont need to prepare anything

i dont know any other game than poe that has such a long preparation to run content

im not twisting anything you just steer the conversation towards something that has partially to do with the original topic

doesnt make my argument any less valid even if you insist on it

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

werent you the one that came up with the entire "juicing" topic?

dude, it was your post about juicing things in diablo3, also this is your whole topic that you want juicing without any effort.

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

endgame in d3 and last epoch doesnt punish you for not juicing

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

all i mentioned was that in diablo3 i dont need to prepare anything
(...)
doesnt make my argument any less valid even if you insist on it

You stated that diablo 3 is not punishing you if you decide to not juice the endgame - but it doesn't have juicing in the first place. How is that making argument about jucing valid? (it doesn't)

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jsuslak313 wrote:

Second of all: in 10 pages of posts you have yet to name a single other game that does what PoE does, but better. You have NAMED other games, but not a single one does the endgame quite like PoE does, with better quality and greater speed. Alch and Go mapping takes less than a second per map, similar to running GRifts or Last Epoch things or <insert name>, and provides VERY similar average loot gains.

LEs endgame, leaving aside the scope which doesn't compare yet for obvious reasons, is very close to POEs. Just that, instead of having a ton of micro management to get your juice, you naturally progress towards that in form of corruption and echo mods. Which brings us to the point. Since LEs way of doing it slightly different there is the upside of having way less micro management. However that obviously means you have slightly less freedom and customization compared to POE.
My answer to what game does endgame better than POE would be LE.

And to finish it with a nitpick, 1 second per map for alch and go is only realistic if your build can run absolutely every map mod and map mod combination which limits your build choice by a lot. If you want to pick your own build you will have 4-5 seconds on average per map just for alch and go which would be fine if it's one map but for dozens or hundreds? Kinda annoying.

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Nomancs wrote:

You stated that diablo 3 is not punishing you if you decide to not juice the endgame - but it doesn't have juicing in the first place. How is that making argument about jucing valid? (it doesn't)

where specifically did i wrote "if i decide to juice" ?
i know there is no juicing in d3 wtf ...

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Nomancs wrote:

dude, it was your post about juicing things in diablo3, also this is your whole topic that you want juicing without any effort.

read my opening post about this
i think you missed the point

and im not gonna argue with you about the validity of my arguments since you started bringing the term "juice" into this conversation and i fell for this trap.

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

endgame in d3 and last epoch doesnt punish you for not juicing

hahahaha you meant this comment of mine pfaahaha
yeah dude you totally failed to understand the entire point. only because i mentioned d3 and LE in the same sentence doesnt mean i mean "only" d3
obviously the juicing part was connected to LE not with d3