[3.24] Ice Shot / Lightning Arrow Deadeye (Or Tornado Shot) - 400%+ MS, League Start Viable!

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SirChesticles wrote:
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K4P0T wrote:
I respecced from RoA Raider to this build because I died so often.
Got 270 deaths this league already.

I put reduced mana cost on both rings and the amulet. Still have some issues but it is manageable.

Can somebody take a quick look at my setup as is and give some quick advice? Boots are not optimal. Single target is meh because my bow is not 6 linked.

I will get a Synth Ring with Life on Attack first thing then my next step would be buying a Watcher's Eye with grace. And then saving for Thread of Hope.

https://pobb.in/Z9iBKslpu013


Few quick suggestions from personal experience with the build --

I'd personally swap to lightning arrow, from what ive read (this is my first time playing bow so may not be correct), LA is better than TS until you are very well geared, where TS starts to outshine.

Somethings to upgrade that should be cheap/easy --
Flasks, this will be a big upgrade to survival. You have two that relate to ailments, but purity of elements gives complete ailment immunity, so they do nothing. You should get increased armor, reduced effect of curses, or attack speed on them. Also craft on an enchant based on preference, either use on full charge, or use on hitting rare/unique mob.

Artillery ballista provides a large amount of DPS for bosses. While i'd prioritize links for your main skill, you should at the very least have 4 linked artillery ballista, moving up to 5 once you have the sockets/fusings (150 fusing at crafting bench for 5 link). Look at the gems section to see what you should be using.

Get an Immortal flesh with higher base life regen. you have almost the lowest roll, and it will help your Berserk uptime.

Body armor also has ailment craft on it, with Purity of Elements, its not needed. Would suggest trying to get your chaos resistance closer to 0%. Same thing with boots implicit.

I'd swap to either panopticon if youre sticking with tornado shot, or vengeant cascade if you swap to lightning arrow for amulet annoint.

Allocate the bow mastery "increases and reductions to projectile speed also applies to damage", its a solid 5-10% damage increase for a single skill point.

If you can find one cheapish, try using the Path of building timeless jewel tool to find a lethal pride that comes with double damage, or intimidate chance for another nice DPS increase.


Thanks for your suggestions.
I improved the flask situation. I will look into LA. Just got Panopticon yesterday but maybe will sell the amulet and get something different.
Ailment Immune was from Raider.
I'm trying to 6 link the bow atm. I got a crucible node which boosted the qual to 36 (I'm not sure if it is comparable to Hilock quality) but no luck yet in 250 Fusings.
I didn't realise that my Immortal was so bad. I found the one I have now and an exact duplicate yesterday. Huge improvement.

I crafted life on the chest since I would feel more comfortable with 3,5k but I think chaos makes more sense to forgo the one hits from piety and malachai.

Did Chimera and Hydra yesterday which felt easy.

I got a timeless with intimidate.
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Creator66 wrote:
Hi,

Having fun with the build, i was wondering, cause i have a ring with curse with elemental weakness on hit, if it would be better to anoint whispers of doom so i can have both EW and sniper's mark ? I'm using the endgame crit phys buid


I think you're better off selling the elemental weakness ring and saving for a +1 power charge ring
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11Kobar11 wrote:
Trying to go to critical now that ive got some sweet gear. I've got Heatshiver helm, is that a bad choice? stats looked good... i did read that i should be going for a bow with more physical damage but i dont see where that becomes more important than elemental stats.....

would a good lioneye glare work here?

really would appreciate some advice on my build as is though!! will be getting prob new bow, quiver and ammy.


Heatshiver is the way to go, you'll need a phys bow but make sure you have all the other gear ready before you make the transition, the crit PoB isn't exactly an incremental upgrade type of Pob, you need all the core pieces before you swap over.
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Greedzius wrote:
Hi, build is amazing so far and ive invested around 20 div into it about now. But I honestly wanted to try to change to Lighning arrow from TS because of the vengeant cascade annoint, could be fun. Can anyone look at my profile and tell me if is there anything to change before I change to LA? Or does this build function in a way that all I need is just to change annoint and TS gem for LA gem and Im good to go? Thanks!

Edit: Or if not LA then it could also be Ice shot since that also seems to be really good with vengeant cascade. My point being still is if I can just swap the one gem and be completely fine with the build, or if theres anything else Id need to change


I haven't tried myself but I get that people who try vengeant cascade LA/IS prefer farshot over detached mirage archer, the rest should be similar if not the same, maybe different totem setup but I haven't experimented with that yet.
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teebeewhy wrote:
Swapped over to the crit setup and....definitely not liking it as much so far. My damage feels pretty awful; I know there are plenty of things to fix still like getting to 100% conversion on gloves, action speed on boots, aura effect on body, better crucible tree. But those aren't going to make insane changes to my damage.

I'm just surprised at how much squishier and slow feels it is in comparison to the point of almost buying stacks of regrets to go back to the previous setup and sell all the crit gear I finally just put on lol.

https://pobb.in/v83IkUq5MFIv

That is my setup at the moment with the same config settings as the endgame pob. Am I missing something obvious? Hopefully :D


Nice job so far, it's looking good!

I think you should have a much better tree on your bow, or a better bow altogether. the +2 arrow phys bow is massive and the +2 power charge almost just as much.

the 12 passives cluster needs 35% effect and at least 2 other T1/T2 mods from the following: attack speed, all res, attributes, chaos res, life.

Finally you should change your medium clusters to fill your crit requirements, so right now I see that you are at 80% crit, so you should remove 1 or 2 projectile cluster and put in some crit clusters instead to stay closer to 100% crit.
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Xenithos wrote:
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SirChesticles wrote:
Whoever recommended vengeant cascade, is an MVP. I've been doing juicy 100% life legion / essence farming with panopticon, and swapping to vengeant feels like i doubled my damage. Especially for essence mobs, as the ones with 5+ essence felt like theyd kill my totems as soon as they were summoned.

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gamer15oo wrote:
Hello,

First of all I love this build, great job with the guide, especially leveling up made everything so smooth.

I just finished ACT10 and now I just bought all my items to make sure res were max but I just saw I went overboard, even tho I did the math this seems way too overboard, can you tell me exactly how much res do I need or add it to the guide for future references? Thank you

https://prnt.sc/dEGNYgWZk_kN


You should always aim for 75/75/75 (cold light fire) and 0 chaos, on almost any build. Having more is never bad though, as there are many things in the game that can reduce your resistances. Generally i like to have mine at about 85-90 each.


Hey, just popping in to let you know that in current meta getting 100% resistances is the recommendation. Monster's exposure is a guaranteed 25% since 3.20 when they raised it. You should also look into curse immunity/preventing curses from affecting you as they can scale your resistances too.


Thank you to both of you for the tips, helped me a lot. Mind if I ask you guys to take a look at my pob and try to understand why I can only have 2 auras on? I feel like I'm missing something somewhere but can't seem to grasp what
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yankuch wrote:
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Greedzius wrote:
Hi, build is amazing so far and ive invested around 20 div into it about now. But I honestly wanted to try to change to Lighning arrow from TS because of the vengeant cascade annoint, could be fun. Can anyone look at my profile and tell me if is there anything to change before I change to LA? Or does this build function in a way that all I need is just to change annoint and TS gem for LA gem and Im good to go? Thanks!

Edit: Or if not LA then it could also be Ice shot since that also seems to be really good with vengeant cascade. My point being still is if I can just swap the one gem and be completely fine with the build, or if theres anything else Id need to change


I haven't tried myself but I get that people who try vengeant cascade LA/IS prefer farshot over detached mirage archer, the rest should be similar if not the same, maybe different totem setup but I haven't experimented with that yet.



Hey thanks for responding! If I were to switch detached mirage archers for far shot, shouldnt I also unallocate point blank on my try so It takes full effectiveness? Thanks in advance!
How do you think mageblood would work here ? I'm thinking in buying one
Which flasks would you use ?
How does the actual process of searching for a lethal pride work? What do I need to enter where?
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Machtkatze wrote:
How does the actual process of searching for a lethal pride work? What do I need to enter where?


Pretty complicated to explain but this will help https://youtu.be/jo6DT7T2a0g



Should I keep on trying to 6-link it or spend 2 divines for 1500 fusings?
Or sell it and get one from trade?
I searched poe trade for similar bows and they are around 6 divine 6 linked.
Last edited by K4P0T on Apr 18, 2023, 7:51:07 AM

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