RUTHLESS

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DiabloImmoral wrote:
No one will play Ruthless mode except streamers. No one.



I will.
~ There are spectacular moments.
Making things scarce just makes people play builds that rely less on equipment, and since I predict this will be a momentarily fun diversion, it will only have lasting power for streamers....maybe. Do people want to watch all streamers play and never find anything? I don't watch streams so that is an honest question.

The league will just be some scapegoat for why the normal game can be made easy mode otherwise in forum/reddit discussions.

I would rather hard mode just make everything live longer and do more damage. Walking around never finding anything in a game where finding things is already baselined as hard doesn't sound fun. Or maybe hard mode is HC without instant logout. Whatever -- this thing is going to flop in my opinion.
Thanks for all the fish!
Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on Oct 14, 2022, 8:01:12 AM
For sure Ruthless is not for me.
Might be fun to watch streamers completing the campaign without gear, hopefully they wont grind lvl 90+ in The Blood Aqueduct in HC.
Last edited by 6_din_49#4066 on Oct 14, 2022, 8:48:13 AM
Interesting how they invested into this hard mode for whatever reason. If Empy and other well known streamers quit this league due to horrible changes then not even them will play hard mode. Obviously it will be only for less than 1% of playerbase or rather just for masochists. If we look at statistics, majority of players barely done less than half of contents in poe and that's being generous.
More aggravated that this is what is being pushed and receiving balance review instead of more focus on how enjoyable normal game play is or feels to players.

They are creating for a minuscule portion of the player base with this.

Will definitely be watching for next league, but certainly won't be buying any supporter packs until I see how the actual game I play looks.

I honestly don't particularly hate nemesis, but I do hate the way the loot explosions work.

Scrap magic find or make it part of the atlas or something, it felt awful this league and this was by far the furthest into the game I have made it ever.
League to make known issues with item generation worse is an idea i guess.

Prepare to have people be smug about playing it like HC and SSF without realizing it's the same game with the same builds but more grinding.

The real question is "Will Chris learn the lesson that taking longer to reach the end doesn't increase playtime, it makes people quit earlier" The answer is of course no, because he should have learned that a long long time ago, but who knows.
Last edited by j33bus#3399 on Oct 14, 2022, 3:13:19 PM
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DiabloImmoral wrote:
No one will play Ruthless mode except streamers. No one.


I will definitely give it a shot.
Mash the clean
Whether it's any good is too early to tell. The item scarcity alone isn't interesting; but the 'other changes' might possibly be.

Mostly I'm inclined to just wait and see; since it appears we don't have to use it.

One thing I'm potentially interested in, is if the mode makes it so completing the acts is more challenging and interesting, rather than the challenge not really appearing until maps.
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DoubleU wrote:
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DiabloImmoral wrote:
No one will play Ruthless mode except streamers. No one.



I will.


Honestly, it isn't "hard" enough to be interesting to me if its just scarcity. Now, if there were zero gem vendors, and you had to grind gems, then I might find it interesting on a "Oh good! another gem dropped! What will this do to my already psychotic build and how can I make the most of it" level
Last edited by jdp29#1389 on Oct 14, 2022, 5:05:35 PM
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Shardbearer wrote:
More aggravated that this is what is being pushed and receiving balance review instead of more focus on how enjoyable normal game play is or feels to players.

They are creating for a minuscule portion of the player base with this.

Will definitely be watching for next league, but certainly won't be buying any supporter packs until I see how the actual game I play looks.

I honestly don't particularly hate nemesis, but I do hate the way the loot explosions work.

Scrap magic find or make it part of the atlas or something, it felt awful this league and this was by far the furthest into the game I have made it ever.


The problem, is that THIS is what Chris finds interesting and wants to play. Thus it gets attention from him, despite taking away resources (no matter how you slice or dice it, resources were diverted to the vanity project) from the rest of the game.

Imagine if word gets out that part of the reason this horrible no good Kalandra league is lasting longer, is because resources WERE diverted to Ruthless mode.
Last edited by jdp29#1389 on Oct 14, 2022, 4:58:00 PM

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