3.16 is disappointing, more powercreep for the wealthy and no toning down of OP content

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Azarhiel wrote:

Hardest content should be hard but reachable if you don't have a time constrain.

Final Fantasy omega bosses are doable because you can spend a year grinding for the prerequisites to do it.

And i have done all of them on every FF that had one and that are not online games.

In a 3 month gap, unless you take PoE as a SECOND JOB, you can't do that. This is WHERE the PROBLEM IS.


Play standard then?
You chose to play in a league environment. Why would you do that, if you cant reach YOUR goals in that timeframe?

Adjust your goals to reality or choose a gamemode fitting to the time you can/want to invest.
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Orbaal wrote:


Play standard then?
You chose to play in a league environment. Why would you do that, if you cant reach YOUR goals in that timeframe?

Adjust your goals to reality or choose a gamemode fitting to the time you can/want to invest.


I could play standard yes, but that won't change the problem.

Standard is impacted every 3 month with nerfs that destroy build and youi still have to start over...

Standard or SSF standard shoould have been frozen a long time ago in a balance state that give players with low play time per session a way to finish the game. I'm a midcore player, of course i won't be statisfied with only being able to go to yellow maps...

GGG need to make a gamemode with 3.11/3.13 balance for low time investment players per session and never touch it again. If that means not having new league features going core, let it be i don't care. I only want to be able to finish this game once before i die of game is dead by lack of player base !!
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@Azarhiel dude it is such a waste of time trying to explain things to these people. I literally seen every argument/suggestion they come up with already, elsewhere :)
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Bosscannon wrote:
@Azarhiel dude it is such a waste of time trying to explain things to these people. I literally seen every argument/suggestion they come up with already, elsewhere :)


I understand that, but is that a reason for not speaking out loud of PoE's problems ?

If the game goes down because players left and it is not longer sustainable, those players will still cry because the game is dead and there is no others like this one.

GGG has a solid game in their hands, it is just stupid to blindly pissoff low time investment players because those are greatly contributing to GGG's income cycles.
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Gambling is not fun nor a game mechanic...
Last edited by Azarhiel#6045 on Dec 17, 2021, 5:05:07 AM
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Azarhiel wrote:

I could play standard yes, but that won't change the problem.


Yes it does.

Ofc overall balance changes will affect standard too.
However you dont need to lvl your character back to lvl90+, you dont need to unlock the atlas and atlas passives, you dont need to unlock/unveil crafting bench recipes etc etc.
And you do already have some gear in your stash.

Overall thats saving you some estimated 40-60hrs or more you now have available to achieve YOUR goals.

Your problem is a lack of time. Yet YOU choose to play in a mode that will guaranteed delete all your progress after 3 months. YOU choose to play SSF which is taking at least 10x the amount of time to where YOU want to be compared to trade league.

All of YOUR problems are caused by YOU.
YOUR preferences and real life situation arent a reason to change anything about the game. Its doesnt revolve around YOU.


The reason why I kept spelling YOU in capital letters was to underline why I called it narcissism in a previous post.
Please do go on to make my points.
Last edited by Orbaal#0435 on Dec 17, 2021, 5:08:07 AM
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Azarhiel wrote:
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Bosscannon wrote:
@Azarhiel dude it is such a waste of time trying to explain things to these people. I literally seen every argument/suggestion they come up with already, elsewhere :)


I understand that, but is that a reason for not speaking out loud of PoE's problems ?

If the game goes down because players left and it is not longer sustainable, those players will still cry because the game is dead and there is no others like this one.

GGG has a solid game in their hands, it is just stupid to blindly pissoff low time investment players because those are greatly contributing to GGG's income cycles.


No absolutely do try to speak out, but don't participate in these arguments because they always lead to same thing - they will eventually just tell you to go find another game because this one is for them and not for you.
When fallacious arguments aren't convincing comes the biased moderation.
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Azarhiel wrote:
In a 3 month gap, unless you take PoE as a SECOND JOB, you can't do that. This is WHERE the PROBLEM IS.

I can give you some of my legacy gear in standard if you want :)
You'll have all the time in the world in standard, if I wanted to bother that's where I'd do it.

Though I'd say it's very much possible if you know what you're doing, and there are places you can go if you want to know what you're doing. Maybe something like ghazzy's discord, his builds are good, the community is nice and helpful. If I really wanted to know how to beat all of the game with least effort I'd go there instead of wasting good gaming time on reading the forum.

I've been playing this for a long time, though, playing a week when I don't like the league and few weeks if I do feels right. And that's ultimately the way I chose to play, I can't ask from GGG to adjust the game for the optimal experience of burned-out players that rarely donate these days :)
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Orbaal wrote:


Yes it does.

Ofc overall balance changes will affect standard too.
However you dont need to lvl your character back to lvl90+, you dont need to unlock the atlas and atlas passives, you dont need to unlock/unveil crafting bench recipes etc etc.
And you do already have some gear in your stash.

Overall thats saving you some estimated 40-60hrs or more you now have available to achieve YOUR goals.

Your problem is a lack of time. Yet YOU choose to play in a mode that will guaranteed delete all your progress after 3 months. YOU choose to play SSF which is taking at least 10x the amount of time to where YOU want to be compared to trade league.

All of YOUR problems are caused by YOU.
YOUR preferences and real life situation arent a reason to change anything about the game. Its doesnt revolve around YOU.


The reason why I kept spelling YOU in capital letters was to underline why I called it narcissism in a previous post.
Please do go on to make my points.


I don't have to leve again : right
I don't have to unlock my atlas : Right but it is reset, and with balance changes, most of the time i can't go back in T16 without ajustments that need tens of hours of farming / fiding solutiuons to work with the nerfs

Yes i play SSF and Trade should be the easy way of finishing the game.

I don't have any problems in MMO's / ARPG's grinding out for 6 month for a piece of gear that will make my build better.

BUT :

I have a problem with PoE's gear progression that requires insane amount of grind (same as korean MMO's) and yet you may have done all for nothing because you did not get an upgrade in gear.

Either GGG freezes the balance for a portion of its player base, or they have to rework the entire game to make gear progression meaningfull and not being a waste of time...
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Azarhiel wrote:
BUT :

I have a problem with PoE's gear progression that requires insane amount of grind (same as korean MMO's) and yet you may have done all for nothing because you did not get an upgrade in gear.


Look in gauntlet topplayers did all of that and did beat the hardest bosses in HCSSF within 44hrs. Thats the hardest mode there is in PoE.

Im nowhere near good enough to achieve the same and yes they were using the most broken builds to achieve just that.
However its still a statement as to how easy the game generally and the grind for good gear specifically is, IF you do have the gameknowledge.

You dont and neither do I.


Instead of expecting GGG to make the game even more easy, you should sit your ass down and learn - as should I.
Clearly the both of us are severly lacking knowledge which can be overcome.

Im trying to, you dont.
You want the easy way out, I dont.
Thats the bottom line.
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Azarhiel wrote:
I don't have any problems in MMO's / ARPG's grinding out for 6 month for a piece of gear that will make my build better.

So, how's that different from grinding currency in PoE and buying what you want? Even if you really want to do it yourself there are ways to get guaranteed upgrades, but a game with lively item economy can't really give you a way to get the 'exact thing you need' yourself.

PoE operates pretty much on a 'pick 2' system from this list
1. Meta build
2. Trading
3. Time investment
If you're running a meme build it's hard to do it without trading and more time, if you're playing SSF you need more time and a meta build, and if you don't have time you should trade and pick a good build. That's the cutoff point of comfort, of course, you can do 'pick 1' but you won't have a good time, and you shouldn't, a game like this can't have that much wiggling room.

And, I hope you realize that what you're asking access to is the equivalent of, for instance, savage/ulti raids in FFIV, and I can assure you not every Joe is doing those.
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