3.15 League Starters

I'm going Melee Totems to start.
But I will roll an Exsanguinate Scion again, really enjoyed it in Ultimatum.

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Necrotekk wrote:

Chris says: "I Want a slower game so players can interact more with our "interesting" bosses. (What, all 3 decent ones?)

Me: "OK, minions it is while I afk and let them beat the boss for me, yet again. I love minion leagues"

Oiy. No kvetching about nerfs. That includes passive-aggressive snark. You want to run minions because Grinding Gear is taking a stick to power creep and putting frowny faces on Zoomy Zoom Bois who think the game is unplayable if they can't three-shot AW8 Sirus or Maven, that's on you. Take it elsewhere.

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DoubleU wrote:

I'm going Melee Totems to start.
But I will roll an Exsanguinate Scion again, really enjoyed it in Ultimatum.

I'll admit, I never bothered looking at the spend-life skills. Mostly because they were odd, and also I skipped Ultimate due to burnout. How's Exsanguinate work, any particular options you'd recommend?

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1453R wrote:

Oiy. No kvetching about nerfs. That includes passive-aggressive snark. You want to run minions because Grinding Gear is taking a stick to power creep and putting frowny faces on Zoomy Zoom Bois who think the game is unplayable if they can't three-shot AW8 Sirus or Maven, that's on you. Take it elsewhere.

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Unplayable? You're projecting too. The games playable as it is. The simple fact is this league has told me that Chris is mad people go fast, so I will take his word and go slow. So slow I shouldn't need to interact much with the game at all, since he seems to think us zoomy bois don't.


There is many ways to break this game. He just decided to shit all over my preferred one. So I just move to another, or rather, the same identical minions builds that been easily clearing content since I joined. :

So apparently it's not possible to go fast and be challenging? I beg to differ when all I hear is people who can't go fast OR progress xD

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1453R wrote:

I'll admit, I never bothered looking at the spend-life skills. Mostly because they were odd, and also I skipped Ultimate due to burnout. How's Exsanguinate work, any particular options you'd recommend?

This was my HCSSF build https://pastebin.com/3AesZKbT

Since i'm purely Ranger type of player... I pick probably toxic rain this league since we got a few things in poison/chaos..

Otherwise my build later will be directed to elemental and probably lightning to pick up new gem "Storm Rain"

Build is in raw process trough help of ppl trough discord and some other portals :D

Maybe i will edit later her my final look..

I have really high hopes for Storm Rain. It looks like a ton of fun, and I think there's potential for it to be quite good. I'd need to see what/how it scales with gem level to know better - does the beam interval get shorter? Do arrows fire more total beams? - but depending on the answers to that Storm Rain is on my short list. I think it could potentially work well with Focused Ballistas, or ballistas in general - get your artillery set up to cover the battleground in a carpet of lightning death while you focus on more potent primary shots, or on debuffing enemies with Split Arrow-delivered maladies.

Could also do the Occupying Force Deadeye thing, with up to three possible Mirage Archers firing more Storm Arrows for you. Deadeye definitely seems like the ticket, given its two free extra projectiles and how powerful Occupying Force is for skills like Storm Rain or Toxic Rain. Could work towards the various +1 Arrow modifiers on bows/quivers and keep individual hit damage up, or go with GMP to create super dense webs of shock arrows and count more on hitting many times with each additional shot.

There's something to that. Might have to do some theorycrafting myself once we get more gem information.

I loved the new chaos spell forbiden rite and was really going for self casting it.

But every build for selfcast i can think is still worst by far than a totem build for it.

As i dont like totem, and dont like knowing that the totem version is much better, im going to not play this skill.

=P

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HoockBr wrote:

I loved the new chaos spell forbiden rite and was really going for self casting it.

But every build for selfcast i can think is still worst by far than a totem build for it.

As i dont like totem, and dont like knowing that the totem version is much better, im going to not play this skill.

=P

Chaos Inoculation will do fine with Forbidden Rite. The loss of damage from max-health scaling is made up for by the fact that you can cast it significantly faster than most totems and the fact that you get all the usual benefits of CI. You can also use Damaj on Full Life where a life-based selfcaster couldn't, so that opens up options. You may want a secondary skill like Essence Drain to assist with boss DPS, but that's chaos skills in general. Very few of them hold up boss DPS on their own, they're kinda built to stack with each other.

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HoockBr wrote:

I loved the new chaos spell forbiden rite and was really going for self casting it.

But every build for selfcast i can think is still worst by far than a totem build for it.

As i dont like totem, and dont like knowing that the totem version is much better, im going to not play this skill.

=P

But why? :)

I´ll transition into this skill later and I do think its gonna be great for general clear and might also be ok for bossing. Hard to tell without knowing the numbers for lv20 gems just yet.

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1453R wrote:

It feels like Spellslinger gets double-whammied this patch, yeah. Overfat reservation plus full mana cost of the associated spell. Oof. On the other hand, I feel like Spellslinger is supposed to mate a not-insignificant attack with a less-than-6L spell, which it may be able to do. I'm hoping Spellslinger sees some adjustments in 3.16 either way, but it may not be entirely unsalvageable.

Agreed on maybe not using it as a league starter, though. Spellslinger feels like it's gonna be a dicey start, there's more stable options out there.

The cool thing with Forbidden Rite, for me, is that the skill is nearly four times stronger if you don't do the obvious thing and run Chaos Inoculation. Building for life-based Forbidden Rite will be much more difficult, but a lot more rewarding if one can pull it off. Any ideas which way you're swinging, and how to mitigate the huge self-damage you take if you go life-based?

They just said about increase mana multipl. on support gems and ofc mana cost of triggered spells. The root mechanic of spellslinger is 'trigger' too, BUT! there is no tag of 'Trigger' and the spell itself is arranged like an aura with a certain amount of reservation, no more. The existence of gem like this just would not make sense. So you only have to worry about the increased reservation for the spellslinger.