Blazing Salvo mines not chaining

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delta1994 wrote:

This is not the main issue. The main issue is that the sequence with for example Blazing Salvo breaks seemingly "randomly". I have made a clip for this where you can see the following: When you throw your mines, start the detonation sequence and then keep throwing traps to "refuel" the next chain it sometimes randomly just flat out stops detonating. Sometimes even after ONE detonated mine and sometimes it didnt even detonate a single mine when the detonate key was pressed. I took a short clip recreating this behaviour. I first noticed this when I was doing bossing. Sometimes I would absolutely melt Conq's and sometimes it would take forever because my detonation sequence kept breaking and breaking. I hope it is okay to post the streamable link in here if not I'm very sorry but this was the easiest way to show how ot recreate this. Here is the clip!: https://streamable.com/4n39r9

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redslugah wrote:

same here, 19 mines placed, 11 remain after rearmed and chain reaction ended. Tried with pyroclast on tremor rod and all mines triggered.

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heishe wrote:

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redslugah wrote:

same here, 19 mines placed, 11 remain after rearmed and chain reaction ended. Tried with pyroclast on tremor rod and all mines triggered.

That's not a bug and that's not even bad. What's happening is that some mines rearmed before the first sequence ends, and are included in the original chain sequence. But that's very good for you since mines do more damage for detonated mine in the sequence and if you're saboteur you get more buffs from it as well. It does mean you need to place 7-8 mines for the second sequence before detonating it though.

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Tomtah wrote:

Ok so is the interaction with Blazing salvo+tremor rod considered a bug that should be fixed or working as intended?

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Tim_GGG wrote:

I just tested this on the current patch and an older patch (3.13.2). I compared how well mines chain with Tremor Rod on each patch and there is no difference between the patches.

However there is a difference between how well mines chain, and this is mostly related to the cast time of the skill the mine uses. A mine placed with Tremor Rod won't rearm until it has cast its skill. This is particularly obvious if you link Portal to Blastchain Mine.

Pyroclast Mine, with a cast time of 0.18 seconds, has a much faster cast time compared to the other mine skills and most other skills in the game, such as Blazing Salvo, with a cast time of 0.7 seconds. This is why it chains better with Tremor Rod, the mines rearm much faster to be ready to chain again.

Somewhat unintuitively you can get cast speed to increase the speed at which your mines rearm with Tremor Rod, although from my testing you need quite a large amount to make a noticeable difference. For example, you'd need ~280% increased cast speed to lower the cast time of Blazing Salvo to 0.18 to match the cast time of Pyroclast Mine.

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Tim_GGG wrote:

I just tested this on the current patch and an older patch (3.13.2). I compared how well mines chain with Tremor Rod on each patch and there is no difference between the patches.

However there is a difference between how well mines chain, and this is mostly related to the cast time of the skill the mine uses. A mine placed with Tremor Rod won't rearm until it has cast its skill. This is particularly obvious if you link Portal to Blastchain Mine.

Pyroclast Mine, with a cast time of 0.18 seconds, has a much faster cast time compared to the other mine skills and most other skills in the game, such as Blazing Salvo, with a cast time of 0.7 seconds. This is why it chains better with Tremor Rod, the mines rearm much faster to be ready to chain again.

Somewhat unintuitively you can get cast speed to increase the speed at which your mines rearm with Tremor Rod, although from my testing you need quite a large amount to make a noticeable difference. For example, you'd need ~280% increased cast speed to lower the cast time of Blazing Salvo to 0.18 to match the cast time of Pyroclast Mine.

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Tim_GGG wrote:

I just tested this on the current patch and an older patch (3.13.2). I compared how well mines chain with Tremor Rod on each patch and there is no difference between the patches.

However there is a difference between how well mines chain, and this is mostly related to the cast time of the skill the mine uses. A mine placed with Tremor Rod won't rearm until it has cast its skill. This is particularly obvious if you link Portal to Blastchain Mine.

Pyroclast Mine, with a cast time of 0.18 seconds, has a much faster cast time compared to the other mine skills and most other skills in the game, such as Blazing Salvo, with a cast time of 0.7 seconds. This is why it chains better with Tremor Rod, the mines rearm much faster to be ready to chain again.

Somewhat unintuitively you can get cast speed to increase the speed at which your mines rearm with Tremor Rod, although from my testing you need quite a large amount to make a noticeable difference. For example, you'd need ~280% increased cast speed to lower the cast time of Blazing Salvo to 0.18 to match the cast time of Pyroclast Mine.

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Tim_GGG wrote:

I just tested this on the current patch and an older patch (3.13.2). I compared how well mines chain with Tremor Rod on each patch and there is no difference between the patches.

However there is a difference between how well mines chain, and this is mostly related to the cast time of the skill the mine uses. A mine placed with Tremor Rod won't rearm until it has cast its skill. This is particularly obvious if you link Portal to Blastchain Mine.

Pyroclast Mine, with a cast time of 0.18 seconds, has a much faster cast time compared to the other mine skills and most other skills in the game, such as Blazing Salvo, with a cast time of 0.7 seconds. This is why it chains better with Tremor Rod, the mines rearm much faster to be ready to chain again.

Somewhat unintuitively you can get cast speed to increase the speed at which your mines rearm with Tremor Rod, although from my testing you need quite a large amount to make a noticeable difference. For example, you'd need ~280% increased cast speed to lower the cast time of Blazing Salvo to 0.18 to match the cast time of Pyroclast Mine.