Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

Chris, I think you've "manifested" a belief that you know what your customers want.

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Rakushi wrote:

Edit: I have to say I find it disgusting how so many showcase their supporterpacks etc, like it gives them some form of entitlement. It feels, unnecessary. You've bought them because you've supported the game until now. Which for many of you, is many years in the game. And suddenly a powercreep change irks you to revoke all that support in one go? It's, quite frankly, insane.

I don't go buy apples for 3 years, eat them with delight, and after finding one spoiled one, ask for refund of 3 years purchasing apples. Do you understand how insane that sounds?

Withdrawing support is not an insane idea. Remember, the consumer funds the business, its growth and the people who bring us more of the product. When you deliver a shit apple, people are not going to want to pay for it.

Maybe asking for your money back for the support you've already given is a tad much. But, I don't see it as a major issue.

I'm a casual player playing around 2 hours/day maybe less.

Returned to path of exile after two years, only because i heard about the advanced options given to crafting in this league(Harvest Craft), and hoping i'd get to kill my first Endgame Atlas boss.

truly sad they are removing the only reason i returned to this game.

Perhaps i'll give this game a quick peek on the next league but if that's not something equivalent of the current system i guess i'll leave that as is and move on.

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HowToGusta wrote:

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Rakushi wrote:

Edit: I have to say I find it disgusting how so many showcase their supporterpacks etc, like it gives them some form of entitlement. It feels, unnecessary. You've bought them because you've supported the game until now. Which for many of you, is many years in the game. And suddenly a powercreep change irks you to revoke all that support in one go? It's, quite frankly, insane.

I don't go buy apples for 3 years, eat them with delight, and after finding one spoiled one, ask for refund of 3 years purchasing apples. Do you understand how insane that sounds?

Withdrawing support is not an insane idea. Remember, the consumer funds the business, its growth and the people who bring us more of the product. When you deliver a shit apple, I'm not going to want to buy it.

Maybe asking for your money back for the support you've already given is a tad much. But, I don't see it as a major issue.

No it just means you're throwing tantrums over power taken away from you it's like a kid having there toy taken away basically.

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I_NO wrote:

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HowToGusta wrote:

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Rakushi wrote:

Edit: I have to say I find it disgusting how so many showcase their supporterpacks etc, like it gives them some form of entitlement. It feels, unnecessary. You've bought them because you've supported the game until now. Which for many of you, is many years in the game. And suddenly a powercreep change irks you to revoke all that support in one go? It's, quite frankly, insane.

I don't go buy apples for 3 years, eat them with delight, and after finding one spoiled one, ask for refund of 3 years purchasing apples. Do you understand how insane that sounds?

Withdrawing support is not an insane idea. Remember, the consumer funds the business, its growth and the people who bring us more of the product. When you deliver a shit apple, I'm not going to want to buy it.

Maybe asking for your money back for the support you've already given is a tad much. But, I don't see it as a major issue.

No it just means you're throwing tantrums over power taken away from you it's like a kid having there toy taken away basically.

Hmm, fair enough, I just don't think expressing dissatisfaction and wanting your money back is completely nuts. But, I think if you've supported up until now, you've supported what you've enjoyed, so leave it at that. The insane thing would be to keep funding something you don't like/enjoy.

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Rakushi wrote:

Edit: I have to say I find it disgusting how so many showcase their supporterpacks etc, like it gives them some form of entitlement. It feels, unnecessary. You've bought them because you've supported the game until now. Which for many of you, is many years in the game. And suddenly a powercreep change irks you to revoke all that support in one go? It's, quite frankly, insane.

I don't go buy apples for 3 years, eat them with delight, and after finding one spoiled one, ask for refund of 3 years purchasing apples. Do you understand how insane that sounds?

I don't regret supporting GGG until now. I got insane amounts of hours out of this game. But I have seen the sentiment on reddit and here that: "this has no consequences for the game, people will get over it."

I guess I wanted to show that it does have consequences. They are losing a paying costumer with their decisions. Now maybe I am a snow flake and they will gain more costumers/longevity by catering to to .1%

All I can do is express my frustration on the forums/reddit and stick to my guns of not supporting GGG until I feel it realigns with my philosophies.

Can we not agree that GGG keeps promising us all these cool things in POE2...but what about now? The game is in the worst possible state when it comes to drops. The game spits the most insane amount of loot/fragments/currency and all of it is shit. Tell me last time you found an influenced base with good rolls from the ground? Me? Never. If I ID every single rare in the league I might stumble on tier 1 life, triple res, 30 MS boots once. And it would still be pennies compared to elusive/tailwind boots.

So, if words cannot help, maybe playing a different game can?

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Tenzarin_MyNameWasTaken wrote:

Wow I just heard about this news. Props to GGG to removing the item editor and saving POE! It was far to easy for some people to get good items.

You don't understand one thing..by the time that people get these items, and 'complete' a build, GGG already changed the game fundamentally to the point where that item that took so much RNG to craft , well, is now vendor trash.

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Anointedone wrote:

Chris, I think you've "manifested" a belief that you know what your customers want.

he rests. he thinks he did good job with his big game. he knows exactly what its players want.

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HowToGusta wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

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HowToGusta wrote:

Withdrawing support is not an insane idea. Remember, the consumer funds the business, its growth and the people who bring us more of the product. When you deliver a shit apple, I'm not going to want to buy it.

Maybe asking for your money back for the support you've already given is a tad much. But, I don't see it as a major issue.

No it just means you're throwing tantrums over power taken away from you it's like a kid having there toy taken away basically.

Hmm, fair enough, I just don't think expressing dissatisfaction and wanting your money back is completely nuts. But, I think if you've supported up until now, you've supported what you've enjoyed, so leave it at that. The insane thing would be to keep funding something you don't like/enjoy.

Have to agree with I_NO here, it's not constructive, or in any form critism. It's assuming privilidges that nobody granted you. Telling GGG that you won't support them if this change goes trough, is so wrong too. Blackmailing to get your things? Really? What makes one believe that they'd listen to that... YOu can express that you don't support the decision, but so many in this manifesto have done it in a, shall I say, less than optimal way...

QQing doesn't get you anywhere, basically