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re Freidrich/Friedrich:
I saw other folks, presumably also German native speakers, getting up in arms over that one. Is it particularly offensive, or just silly? Like spelling 'John' as 'Jhon' (which I'm pretty sure I've seen in fantasy writing) or 'William' as 'Willaim' (seen that too, sadly). It could be a typo but it seems to me they've really leaned into it, and 'Freidrich', unlike 'samite' vs 'samnite', doesn't have a meaning of its own separate, and arguably quite opposite, to ''Friedrich'. Or does it?
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Oct 14, 2020, 7:51:10 PMAlpha Member
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Obvious troll is obvious, but nice try.
Wish Chris Wilson had a twitter so I could @ him and get a real answer.
Oh well.
how is that trolling? they also have samite gloves in the game. is that a typo as well? according to your logic it must be
Funny thing is the gloves are not armor and do not match but there are gloves that do match i think but they are not called samite like the helmet... its almost as if they had different people do this and didnt put all the names in the set on the right gear type
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Posted byLynerus#6363on Oct 15, 2020, 12:48:45 AM
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vio wrote:
re Freidrich/Friedrich:
I saw other folks, presumably also German native speakers, getting up in arms over that one. Is it particularly offensive, or just silly?...
No, it's not offensive at all.
But with spelling and pronunciation being better defined in German than in English, it's just a no brainer.
"Ei" is regularly pronounced like "I" [aɪ] in English. There may be very rare exceptions (and especially in names, but that isn't that common, neither), but I can't think of any at the moment.
Of course in English there are many words that have either "ie" or "ei" but both are pronounced [ɪ:], so it's understandable that English speakers might confuse the two in "Friedrich".
"I before E except after C" wasn't invented for nothing, even though it is very inaccurate.
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Posted byMikrotherion#4706on Oct 15, 2020, 1:20:14 AM
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
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vio wrote:
re Freidrich/Friedrich:
I saw other folks, presumably also German native speakers, getting up in arms over that one. Is it particularly offensive, or just silly?...
No, it's not offensive at all.
But with spelling and pronunciation being better defined in German than in English, it's just a no brainer.
"Ei" is regularly pronounced like "I" [aɪ] in English. There may be very rare exceptions (and especially in names, but that isn't that common, neither), but I can't think of any at the moment.
Of course in English there are many words that have either "ie" or "ei" but both are pronounced [ɪ:], so it's understandable that English speakers might confuse the two in "Friedrich".
"I before E except after C" wasn't invented for nothing, even though it is very inaccurate.
So just silly then. ^_^
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Oct 15, 2020, 3:21:58 AMAlpha Member
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
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vio wrote:
re Freidrich/Friedrich:
I saw other folks, presumably also German native speakers, getting up in arms over that one. Is it particularly offensive, or just silly? Like spelling 'John' as 'Jhon' (which I'm pretty sure I've seen in fantasy writing) or 'William' as 'Willaim' (seen that too, sadly). It could be a typo but it seems to me they've really leaned into it, and 'Freidrich', unlike 'samite' vs 'samnite', doesn't have a meaning of its own separate, and arguably quite opposite, to ''Friedrich'. Or does it?
it's as bad as 'John' as 'Jhon' and it gives me the creeps reading it and i don't have ocd.
"frei" means "free" and does not mean the same as friedrich which comes from "frieden" -> "freedom".
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Posted byvio#1992on Oct 15, 2020, 1:19:50 PMAlpha Member
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Here all this time I thought it was the mineral, sammite.
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Posted byL00#0790on Oct 15, 2020, 2:33:11 PM
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vio wrote:
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
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vio wrote:
re Freidrich/Friedrich:
I saw other folks, presumably also German native speakers, getting up in arms over that one. Is it particularly offensive, or just silly? Like spelling 'John' as 'Jhon' (which I'm pretty sure I've seen in fantasy writing) or 'William' as 'Willaim' (seen that too, sadly). It could be a typo but it seems to me they've really leaned into it, and 'Freidrich', unlike 'samite' vs 'samnite', doesn't have a meaning of its own separate, and arguably quite opposite, to ''Friedrich'. Or does it?
it's as bad as 'John' as 'Jhon' and it gives me the creeps reading it and i don't have ocd.
"frei" means "free" and does not mean the same as friedrich which comes from "frieden" -> "freedom".
Interesting. A quick google tells me that Friedrich means 'peaceful ruler' --> Frid=peace, Ric=Ruler. Also the source of the English name Frederick.
And of course I recognise 'Frei' from a certain infamous gate inscription in Poland.
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Oct 15, 2020, 9:35:34 PMAlpha Member
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vio wrote:
"Frieden" → "peace"
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Posted byMikrotherion#4706on Oct 16, 2020, 1:19:06 AM
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3009157
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Samite Helmets have been renamed Samnite Helmets.
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Posted byjack_aubrey#0655on Jan 12, 2021, 3:47:27 PM
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Damn you beat me to it. We did it forums!
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Posted byinnervation#4093on Jan 12, 2021, 3:58:26 PM
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