How can MAPS lag so much harder than any other area ?

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Tamo_Tua wrote:

I try to understand the logic behind this.

The logic is pretty simple. Not many people are trying to play the game with machines as low quality as yours, so it's not worth their effort to invest in changing the system just to get a handful of new players.

They're making plenty of money with the game the way it is now, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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You should just try to see what I am comparing here. I really know that it is not a system meant to play with at all. But modern game engines allow me to play almost anything, because they even are able to make content for smartphones available.

I had enough experience with making things run on ancient hardware in the past, even built a ~$150 calculator for a friend recently enough, something like that:

Gigabyte P35-DS3L = ~$15, flea market
Xeon E5430 = $8, aliexpress
Cooler = $7, flea market
8GB DDR2 = $18, aliexpress
SSD 60GB = $10, flea market
Gigabyte 660GT 2GB = $35, flea market
450W power supply = $15, flea market
Old 320GB HDD = free
Case, monitor, mouse/key = free

It can run poe with low/medium settings decent enough, with some hiccups here and there when the clutter becomes real and of course it can run other games like witcher3 on high and whatnot.
Sure, other games might have better optimization and/or less requirements, but in case of poe, performance became worse in the last year and most likely that tendency will stay the same. If you absolutely think they should make it run on your config, better write a direct email to support :)

go to task manager

right click path of exile

details

right click poe in details

set priority

high


fixed all my lag/stuttering issues

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Tamo_Tua wrote:

It was always like that maps are not a bit improved - the Endgame is only available for elitists like you, who have been commenting here, and even the so called "old hardware" is not that old and cheap - I mean "low performance" not "low for Elitists" performance.

Guys, can u even imagine how much I enjoyed to play Diablo 2 and the graphic is really trash today, but still this game was better, because everyone could play it, there was no "my hardware cannot do it problem" at all.

I really find it irritating when people misuse elitist.

Game performance is poor in general - it needs way more juice than it should. But that has nothing to do with 'elitism'.

I don't even use an ssd - the tech may now be affordable but I was building pcs long before that and still "perceive" it as it was back then.

But really if the game was more optimized our patches wouldn't be so damn massive and lower end machines wouldn't struggle so hard.

And since I have been running without an ssd for some time, I literally have to wait for the 30s grace period (if not longer) after loading into a map before moving.

Just because you can see your character doesn't mean all the resources needed have loaded - the problem is it assumes said resources will load quickly so on the fly won't be too bad. With SSD read times, not so bad - but a standard sata hd will need a bit longer. And that's before taking video card, motherboard etc into account.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

And since I have been running without an ssd for some time, I literally have to wait for the 30s grace period (if not longer) after loading into a map before moving.

Even I do have an ssd in my thing, now u make me look like the elitist here 😅

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Tamo_Tua wrote:

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PoE does not use a "modern" game engine.
Why should they concern themselves with the lowest common denominator?

My suggestions, do not use Steam, use the stand alone client.
On board graphics are crap.
When D3 was released, ActiBlizz said that Intel onboard could handle it, which it could not.
I upgraded to a real video card and it was 100x better to play.

Perhaps your old PC needs an upgrade.

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Tamo_Tua wrote:

Guys, I am not getting ANY hardware to play this game, if there are many games like that which run just perfectly fine, even with more mobs than PoE.

Hardware is never a solution if there is a software solution possible.
You sound like you want to preach "brainless" consumption as solution for everything, which is not meant as an insult, you might actually be intelligent idk and I am not interested in judging you, I mean just this

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buy new, buy more, bigger, better, faster, more expensive

this is a brainless mechanism and does not lead to a better game.

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I want to show you something, where this hardware development has brought us,
with my hardware I play Diablo II and it looks like this compared to PoE

Year 2001 game I can play with my hardware even many times parallel without lag



Year 2020 game PoE I can barely play with my hardware even with the lowest possible settings looks like this




Decide for yourself, which one does look better ? Performancewise this is not a question at all. Also keep in mind, my screenshot from PoE is bigger you have to zoom in a bit to see how blurry it is.

If you're gonna run a Intel HD 500 and blame software...

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

If you're gonna run a Intel HD 500 and blame software...

Well there are many other games where I have no problem at all.
So if there is a single RPG out of many that does not run in any way acceptable, it is my fault, right ?

What are they doing so much better in other games ?
Do you want to see screenshots of those how they look, when I play them ?
No blur no lag, even online. But I won't install those now just to demonstrate, it is my experience I know they run well (also my SDD is too full, it would require to deinstall PoE).

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DoubleU wrote:

When D3 was released, ActiBlizz said that Intel onboard could handle it, which it could not.

It could handle it, you just needed to config your driver well enough.
But I know there was a problem with a Demonhunter skill ... I do not remember exactly, but this game was crap and felt like r*pe for my soul anyway, it was the last time I bought something branded with "Blizzard" and I deinstalled and burned the case with the disc in it and flushed it down the toilet.

I can run Fallout 4 far smoother despite the graphics being seemingly more intensive than PoE.

Like I mentioned previously PoE isn't exactly efficient and essentially takes more power than you would otherwise need for similar performance outside of PoE.

But, just because I can run something like Star Wars The Old Republic on a TnT2 Ultra smoothly does not make it a valid comparison as to why PoE would run so poorly (if at all) using the same card.

Igp is fine for basic use, but any real pc gamer knows not to expect much out of it. It's not like audio, where the onboard performance has gotten to a level where you no longer have to bother with a dedicated sound card.

I mean, not only are you losing out on dedicated vram, but you're also sacrificing part of your total ram to function in its place.

I've never built a computer expected to see gaming use without a dedicated graphics adapter. Anything I built that relied on igp was used for basic stuff like web browsing.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

I've never built a computer expected to see gaming use without a dedicated graphics adapter. Anything I built that relied on igp was used for basic stuff like web browsing.

Yes, I do completely understand and agree on most of your statements, but I do have a reason to not anymore play on a gaming rig, because I did have one and sold it, but to discuss the reasons for it is prohibited by the forum rules.

So I do not want to get into a discussion about hardware, I just want to play this game, and technically it is possible far better, than I actaully do.

So what I want to do here is get hints on how to tune it better, and also get you guys who read this to support me instead of punching me in the face for having the desire to play this game.

When I explain, how much higher performance can be achieved, I do not do this to harm GGG, I do this, to convince people, that it is possible, and even I can play PoE with my low end performance. Everyone will profit from more options to limit the load on the CPU and GPU. So when we all know, how to improve PoE for us then we do exactly know what we have to demand from GGG.

The only ones, that do not need any performance improvement are those Elitist, who already stated, that they never had a single lag in all their life. I do not expect them to understand what solidarity means, but I expect that from everyone else.

It does not help, to trample on those with less performance and say, it does not need improvements, because one has a better machine, when we could instead work together and get improvements for all of us.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

Like I mentioned previously PoE isn't exactly efficient and essentially takes more power than you would otherwise need for similar performance outside of PoE.

That is exactly how it is. Something they do is not delivering good results, and I would like to know more about what exactly it could be. The best would to get comments about it from programmers, who know how to improve the situation, because I really want to write a potent email to GGG Support, and therefore I need as much insight into the topic as possible.

Btw. I am sure, the SSD in my "PC" does the magic trick, why I have quite good performance with most stuff. You should really think about to get one aswell.