Have a look at a Metamorph-specific unique ring!

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Ashriel wrote:

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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Ashriel wrote:

call them out for explicitly disallowing the interaction of this item with Sire of Shards

That did not happen. For the reasons I have already explained, what Sire of Shards does cannot make a be a nova skill and thus work with this.

We did not explicitly disallow this. It just natually didn't work, and we would have had to do a lot more work to explicitly allow that interaction - the item would have had to be worded differently (something along the lines of "Nova Spells and Spells that fire Projectiles in a Nova...", which is longer and confusing), the amount of implementation work would have been significantly bigger, there would have been tricky balance questions, and it was outside the scope of what the item was for from a design standpoint - part of the design behind the item would have been less well served by adding that extra case, for reasons I can't get into yet because they relate to other stuff we haven't announced.

The rewording of "prjectile nova" in stat descriptions was a side thing that took less than 5 minutes. We needed a tag on Nova skills for the item to work, and no-one could come up with anything that really fit other than using "Nova". So we reworded things that were using that word for a different mechanic.

I get it and I appreciate your candor. However, until your further clarifications in this thread, the clear implication with Sire of Shards' existing text of firing socketed gems in a nova would make one think that socketing a spell into SoS would then make it a nova spell. So, finding out that is not the case certainly makes it seem like this is being explicitly disallowed, because the inference - while clearly needing code and not able to be slapped in on a whim "naturally" - is not as it appears. Now that we have clearly defined Nova Spells and know the text on SoS is changing you can defend this, but again, speculation and hype built quickly based on just an image.

Of course, the slightest hint of future possibilities of such interactions helps. Anyway, sorry for grinding your gears, I know you have better things to do.

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Ashriel wrote:

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Nèmo wrote:

Why would this ever work with sire of shards?

Its not intuitive or even remotely something that makes sense

NOVAS ARE NOT PROJECTILES

SIRE OF SHARDS
Socketed Gems fire Projectiles in a Nova

Idk what you people are crying about, in no way shape or form would it make sense that the ring works with SoS. just because it says NOVA in the sire text

Who said novas are projectiles?

And you quoted SoS yourself... so if you socket a projectile spell into SoS, you'd think it would become a nova spell, yes? since you're now using it to cast your projectile spell... in a nova? That's what it's doing. That's how it works.

It's only after the information we've learned in this thread that this has actually become incorrect relative to this ring, come Friday.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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Ashriel wrote:

Edit: So how does Sire of Shards not add a hidden "Nova" tag?

Because support effects fundamentally cannot do that.

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Ashriel wrote:

I mean, if Discharge counts as a "nova" now

Why would it not? it's a fully circular AoE centered on you. It's a perfect example of a nova. I honestly have no idea why you would be surprised by that one.

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Ashriel wrote:

and Death's Oath works with Arcane Surge by adding a hidden Duration tag...

It does not and never has. The game fundamentally does not work that way. A skill is considered to have the tags matching it's skill gem, and no others. Supports do not modifiy tags.

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deadmanwalkin wrote:

Wait, what?

I am responding to the statement as a whole, not jsut the first part of it. Arcane Sruge does apply to Death's Oath, and this affects which other supports can apply.
It does not do this by adding a hidden Duration tag