Please Remove 10% Exp Loss on Death

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Baharoth15 wrote:

if you have a good suggestions for a better mechanic, lets hear it.

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frostzor27 wrote:

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Baharoth15 wrote:

if you have a good suggestions for a better mechanic, lets hear it.

I gave mine. No exp loss, no portal limit, but if you die you lose the instance. Porting out doesn't refill flasks untill you finish the instance or it expires. If you start another instance you lose the previous. Delve is treated like it's today: a couple short delve runs are on instance, longer paths considered one instance, or every delve is an instance regardless of size.

Pretty simple and doesn't affect HC players in the sense they lose two times (exp plus HC death). Hell we already have it in game: labs.

You either finish the map/instance/boss/whatever in one try or you don't finish at all. "But if I have to AFK?" No problem, port out, AFK, go back. "But if I have to trade?" No problem, port out, trade, go back.

In that you must also ban logout macros. Enough with that shit.

The oncoming league Heist takes one step forward: if you die you also lose the loot. For me it's a bit too much but makes sense.

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Wissle wrote:

That would be horrible for noobs/players still learning the game.
They die in every map usually while figuring stuff out, they'd probably just leave the game in frustration when they cannot even sustain white maps

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Baharoth15 wrote:

For new players it's definetely worse than exp loss. The current penalty only really becomes an issue at level 95+. 90 is about the level where you start noticing it at all, everything before that you can literally bruteforce your way to the next level up.
Your suggestion would hit new players right from the start when they try to get into maps and could, in a worst case scenario, even lead to a situation where they don't have any maps left to run.
While at the same time, for any experienced player, your suggestion would be entirely meaningless. Everyone would sail to 100 with no issues and even if you die sometimes, given the abundance of maps you get once your atlas is completed, the loss of a map here and there wouldn't matter at all.

So yeah, not a fan at all. Your version hits newer players harder and veterans not at all. The game should get harder the further you get, not hit you with a wall when you start.

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Raxsyn wrote:

I have been playing since last December 2018 and think this game is a blast.

The number one issue that I Have with the game is the 10% exp loss on death. It adds absolutely no value to the game and just wastes players time. Clearly GGG is not valuing players time they put into the game by constantly setting us back when we die.

I have read most of the arguments as to why to keep it and none of them add any value either.

"Shows how good a players build is" or "Shows the players skill at the game" – players play for their own enjoyment, no one care about how gud you think you are

"Gives those with better builds or skill an edge over the others" - no one cares, it is a RNG massive loot ARPG

"Risk versus reward" - what a joke, it is a grinding RNG loot ARPG

The reality of the of exp loss on death is its GGGs way of slowing down the advancement of players. Nothing more and nothing less, so GGG clearly does not care about wasting players time when those of us who are not the best at this game, waste hours regaining the same exp we just lost because of the exp loss on death.

The game is already unforgiving as it is and players die at some point no matter what. So why add insult to injury when most content is either limited by six portals or in the case of the delve you lose everything once you die in the delve at the node you are at or the sulfite you spent getting there.

The entire reason for Hard Core mode is where skill, builds and risk versus reward truly matters. Anything else outside of HC is nothing more than an annoyance and frustrates players to just rage quit.

Stop wasting players time and remove the 10% exp loss on death, it adds absolutely no value to the game. It’s a twenty-year-old out of date mechanic that nobody uses anymore.

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KingExodusGG wrote:

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Raxsyn wrote:

I have been playing since last December 2018 and think this game is a blast.

The number one issue that I Have with the game is the 10% exp loss on death. It adds absolutely no value to the game and just wastes players time. Clearly GGG is not valuing players time they put into the game by constantly setting us back when we die.

I have read most of the arguments as to why to keep it and none of them add any value either.

"Shows how good a players build is" or "Shows the players skill at the game" – players play for their own enjoyment, no one care about how gud you think you are

"Gives those with better builds or skill an edge over the others" - no one cares, it is a RNG massive loot ARPG

"Risk versus reward" - what a joke, it is a grinding RNG loot ARPG

The reality of the of exp loss on death is its GGGs way of slowing down the advancement of players. Nothing more and nothing less, so GGG clearly does not care about wasting players time when those of us who are not the best at this game, waste hours regaining the same exp we just lost because of the exp loss on death.

The game is already unforgiving as it is and players die at some point no matter what. So why add insult to injury when most content is either limited by six portals or in the case of the delve you lose everything once you die in the delve at the node you are at or the sulfite you spent getting there.

The entire reason for Hard Core mode is where skill, builds and risk versus reward truly matters. Anything else outside of HC is nothing more than an annoyance and frustrates players to just rage quit.

Stop wasting players time and remove the 10% exp loss on death, it adds absolutely no value to the game. It’s a twenty-year-old out of date mechanic that nobody uses anymore.

TLDR : I die too much and can't do the level 100 grind so I'm going to cry and complain to GGG to remove a mechanic they added to give a "feel of a loss to make you more aware as a player that death has a penalty, small, but noticeable penalty." Then I'm going to generalize to validate my point.

Anyway, I have done the level 100 grind and I can tell you this from first hand experience (Not some random numbered reference like your "20 year" remark. The XP penalty makes me appreciate my progress more and be more serious about the grind.