Here’s an early look at the Gladiator Ascendancy in Path of Exile: Legion!

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

So hes the movespeed, attack speed character and he generates frenzy charges for free now?

Okay, please elaborate to me where the idea comes from that Gladiator has tons of movement speed and attack speed? Let me clarify you are not referring to challenger charges which are tied to an aura right?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

You say you disagree with everything I say and always will, ok, Ill be straight with you, I think you want to disagree with everything I say.

Here we are word twisting at its finest.

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zzang wrote:

From the past i remember that we never agreed on anything and by reaidng your current posts we will continue to do so until end of time.

We view the game very very different thats all. And since im busy lvling my current build to lvl 100 (30% missing) i think its a pure time waste writing arguments in the forum with you where no one will agree on the other ones opinion thats all.

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zzang wrote:

And please stop trying to spread that challenger charges are for free they come with a 25% mana reservation blood stance aura requirement.

Blood and Sand is a 10% reservation, and the way I'm reading the announcement at least, it's possible you may be in Blood Stance even without the skill, and only need it to switch between them and to get some minor bonuses. My bold:

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Bex_GGG wrote:

Characters start in Blood Stance, but by using one of the new reservation skills, you'll be able to switch back and forth between Blood and Sand Stance instantly. A low level skill, Blood and Sand reserves 10% of your mana, and while you're in Blood Stance you will deal more area damage with melee skills but have less area of effect. Sand Stance grants more area of effect with melee skills but you will deal less area damage. Repeatedly using the skill instantly switches stances.

Has there been other info with clearer detail on this?

well, I wont waste ur time with any more debate on the matters then :)

you know, much love and respect as always zzang, im sorry if weve fallen out at some point along the way but I do genuinely mean that, youre one of the people around here whos opinions I take seriously and I think most of the long term forum regulars would agree. Good luck with ur grind, Ive never bit the bullet and pushed those last 3 or 4 levels, its an undertaking for sure.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

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zzang wrote:

And please stop trying to spread that challenger charges are for free they come with a 25% mana reservation blood stance aura requirement.

Blood and Sand is a 10% reservation, and the way I'm reading the announcement at least, it's possible you may be in Blood Stance even without the skill, and only need it to switch between them and to get some minor bonuses. My bold:

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Bex_GGG wrote:

Characters start in Blood Stance, but by using one of the new reservation skills, you'll be able to switch back and forth between Blood and Sand Stance instantly. A low level skill, Blood and Sand reserves 10% of your mana, and while you're in Blood Stance you will deal more area damage with melee skills but have less area of effect. Sand Stance grants more area of effect with melee skills but you will deal less area damage. Repeatedly using the skill instantly switches stances.

Has there been other info with clearer detail on this?

Okay i got that wrong definately for some reason i have read 25% and im sorry for that it was not intentional. It was late that night. Id prefer it if i dont need to reserve mana at all to make use of new ascendancy skills but lets see how the numbers are on this skill.

So gladiator is a new zerker now? Seems like nobody in sane mind will play it with such an ascendancies..

And zerker now can be gooooooood xD

This is by far the most boring update.

It's true that gladiator was still used (for the block chance) more than slayer and berserker, so maybe it needed less attention... but all you did is add more options, you didn't even shuffle things around interestingly?

The entire 6 nodes starting with painforged are still mandatory for gladiator to be "worth playing".

Honestly I feel like painforged should've been removed entirely or at least taken out of the path for Versatile and Violent. Gladiators don't need it to cap block. Give players the chance to replace it with one of the new nodes instead of making it a completely mandatory node. The only reason to play gladiator is to cap spell block, so this boring rework feels more like a taunt than anything interesting.

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DarkJen wrote:

So gladiator is a new zerker now? Seems like nobody in sane mind will play it with such an ascendancies..

And zerker now can be gooooooood xD

I get the feeling you haven't actually played gladiator in ages (or ever? you don't have any in your character list).... It's actually esentially the same as before, not "the new zerker". It was always this bad and diluted. 6 nodes have always been necessary to play gladiator the "right" (max spell block) way. Very frustrating that it was promised a rework and didn't actually get one. Anyone who's tricked into giving up the max spell block life while playing gladiator thanks to these new nodes is going to be very, very sad.

is there rly much difference in a 10% and a 25% tho in practical terms? I think about them in the same way tbh. I can reserve 100%, use enlighten and end up with whatever, 88%? its enough to still attack. So because theyre all 25% or 50% options, if you throw a 10% in there it takes the space of a 25%, i dont have room to fit another 25% in on top of ot, it just means i dont need enlighten. In practice its the same deal really.

What do you guys think about removing the connections 9 and 11?

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codetaku wrote:

This is by far the most boring update.

I'd assume they're following the idea that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

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I_NO wrote:

I really do hope you guys change this like whoever made slayer or berserker needs to take over Gladiator right now this is a dumpster compared to zerker or slayer, why would Glad again? From what I understand you don't even take blood explosions anymore apparently you guys fucked that up for some unknown reason.

I_NO:dr