Steelskin and the Guard Skills

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

Is Steelskin triggerable ? Since it's in the same category as the others I assume it is.

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Exile009 wrote:

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NoIguanaForZ wrote:

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I do like that they have defensive powers, now, but my little button bar is seriously running out of space...

This. I have 7 bound skills and Move on leftclick. I use all of them and that's with IC on CWDT. >.>

Craft the helmet Focus mod! That condenses 4 buttons into one. You do have to go through the pain of Veiled mod unlocking to get it, tho. :/

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simsalabim77 wrote:

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apocripha wrote:

(...) but let's be real there are porcupines, you play smart and you don't kill them all at once omfg. (...)

Finally some common sense. Thank you!

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simsalabim77 wrote:

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apocripha wrote:

(...) but let's be real there are porcupines, you play smart and you don't kill them all at once omfg. (...)

Finally some common sense. Thank you!

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apocripha wrote:

what poe players forgot about arpg, to be enjoyable an arpg have to feel like it's rewarding your gameplay. this game turned into this crazy always go faster thing that made these passive defence layers the only viable choice. but let's be real there are porcupines, you play smart and you don't kill them all at once omfg. all these people being peaced of by actual diversity and gameplay improve makes me crazy. also people says that melee can't delve 700 anymore, well if you consider that you reduce 75% of dmg BEFORE mitigation it could make armor good enough delve deep as well, of course only a few specific builds can go that far and that's meant to be like this so stop crying about being oneshot if your char isn't made to deal with that. when a spell is a must have for anyone it's a bad game design as you don't choose to use it but you have to place it somewhere, not enjoyable at all. anyways ggg don't listen to them, and make poe a arpg back instead of the farming simulator it became, you're doing a great job

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Arthotus wrote:

Haha, yes! I'm so excited to see all the vitriol and angst coming from this change. Some of you have never died 1000+ times on your way to level 90 as a flicker striker and it shows.

Path of Exile is a game of choices and chance. It is and will always be one of my favourite games ever for the absolutely absurd number of ways that it can be played, build wise. You have a near limitless quantity of choices on how to equip and customize your characters, with varying degrees of success.

And that's where this change comes in. Immortal call was a bottle neck of uncreative and uninteresting gameplay. Yes, porcupines popping out and ending your uber lab run in a heartbeat sucks, but that's life! Your characters can not and should not be the ender or all life and invincible in all situations. Pick yourself up and try again! There should never be a skill so widely applicable and universally used as immortal call in a game as diverse as PoE. If there's a single skill that has the same effectiveness on a tanky jugg, a quick assassin, a ranged archer, a spindly witch, and a crazy totem zealot, of course it's going to be changed!

To hardcore players, yes, I completely understand that it is utterly and completely outside your control if sixteen different attacks suddenly land from the RNG of the gaming Gods, but that just makes the ones who survive that much more praiseworthy. Do you play hardcore because this game is fair and reasonable, with easy equations that guarantee success, or do you play hardcore because this game can be a Cruel, mistress of fickle tricks and sudden pitfalls that requires knowledge, caution, skill, and more than a little luck to navigate without dying?

For casuals, we die guys. It's as simple as that. We die all the time, but who actually cares, so long as you progress and have some fun? A 'screw your damage!' button is going to be fun to tinker with, die and try again! A 'casual' who doesn't ascribe to the meta slave mentality of immortal call, or who just doesn't know that trick won't even notice that strategy is gone, honestly.

For the elitist, 40 challenge, super Gods that have put in the carpel tunnel inducing hours to get as far as you have, I applaud your dedication to the game, and I am truly in awe of your attention span. Seriously. But lay off the negativity for one second, and think about the alternatives. Would you rather GGG simply left the game exactly the same every league? That they just sprinkle in some extra mobs to obliterate here and there without changing something important about the game? Do you really want to just use the same build to get the same 40 challenges every three+ months, without any modifications or improvements? Or hey, would you rather the developers try to make the game easier, so that even casuals like me can get all 40 challenges and make it to 3000+ delve? So that getting that far and putting in that much time, effort and planning is useless because anyone with a couple hours a week and a full plate of nachos can do it too?

The immortal call change isn't perfect, of course not, because the game isn't always fair and immortal call helped level the RNG field. Taking that away is very simply making the game more dangerous. To me, and apparently to GGG, that's fine! The end game should be dangerous. Your perfectly built character that can clear t16 maps in 10 seconds should have weaknesses, or should still die to pure dumb chance every so often. That's what makes hard core HARD. If this change makes the game unplayable for you, that's really too bad, but I think we'll all be better for it, as it will increase build diversity, which I think has always been GGGs main intent with changes like this.


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As a slightly hypocritical side note, I would like at least one extra skill hot key, if only because my left click is almost always movement so that I'm not accidentally animation locked by clicking a barrel while I try to Dodge. I understand it's a choice limiting thing, but with all the new things that have come out, brands, mitigation skills, changes to vaal skills, and flags, I think at least one more skill slot would be amazing.