[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

Could anyone please advise on when it is possible to switch to CI (i.e. how much ES you need)? I currently have just under 4k with discipline active. I've just started mapping with this build and it's fine, aside from dying very quickly on occasion to what I assume is chaos damage (because I only have ~1.5k life).

Edit: also, if someone is feeling patient - I've just grabbed the EE weapon with orb of storms etc. Obviously I understand how it works in theory, but:

- why doesn't using frost bomb reduce our damage (i.e. surely we do less damage 1/3 times whenever that spell procs?)

- does the spell from that weapon always proc first (i.e. if storm brand procs when we cast vortex, how do enemies take more cold damage instead of more lightning damage, given that vortex hits them first)?
Last edited by Parhelius#1519 on Mar 17, 2019, 7:03:04 AM
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sutasafaia wrote:
So level 84 now, working on white maps, the build feels well neigh invincible at this point in the game. Obviously it will get harder once I get through more maps but for now? Loving it.

I am having a huge problem with gear though as far as str/dex, the build is completely starved of them. I got lucky and found an amulet that gives ~60 str/dex so that's taking care of it but another solution would be far preferred. Of course getting str/dex on everything seems to take too much off of ES or resists. I thought taking more elemental resists on the passive tree would ease up resist requirements on gear, and it did, but even still I'm only at 80% on some.

Not sure what it is honestly, just setting up stats/resists on this char seems far harder than on my previous ones.


resists cap at 75%, anything above that will just benefit you for those few times you have map mods that lowers your resists.
Don't focus to much on the weapon part. A moonsorrow will carry you a long way. Put storm brand with Inc crit in it and cast sb manually when you feel you need it. I killed shaper deathless with this. For your maps including t16 you don't need to proc ee in any way. Just use sb on bosses. This build provides such a huge dmg you don't need the ee proc unless facing bosses. And there just cast it Manually. And when you finally manage to find a good weapon just switch. I went up to t14 with a 4l chest and crap weapon and everything died in a second. Changing to 5l and up to t16 everything is one shot. Even t16 with 120% corrupted. Just bosses take a bit longer. But even shaper was fast on a 5l with crap weapon. In my opinion focus more on getting good es. And look for a good roled rime gaze. Costs a chaos and has good es and insane dmg boost. Rainbowstride for boots is awesome too. Get an Amulett with des str implicit and high str and all stats rolls. They come quite cheap and until you get all es dex/Qual str/qual enchanted gear, will completely cover your attribute needs. Killed uelder last league on 9k es 6l chest with mediocre weapon. You can look at my characters in SC ssf for what I used. I didn't change a thing after the kill.
is there an updated talent tree or a PoB paste?
thank you
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Mindraakki wrote:
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Enterich wrote:
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Mindraakki wrote:
Hey dude,

Good work and very nice guide with the small crafting tips and such.

My question is, how would you go with supporting 2 curses in blasphemy? Since Aspect of the spider is kinda expensive so before you get that, how would you get the second curse? Windscream boots? Corrupted amu? or just from tree tope left curse nodes or even sacrifice ascendancy points for it (by far the worst I guess). What would you drop to get the curse cluster on the tree for example?


Spider is only 50-60c , isnt it?
Not that expensiv.


What beast to buy then? I have no idea. Buying the craft from trade seems a bit risky to give a 2 ex belt to someone and just trust them.


You can buy Fenumus, First of the Night and beastcraft the belt yourself. According to poe.ninja, the going rate for the beast is 40c right now. Also, make sure you have a open suffix on your belt for the craft.
Last edited by arzate03#2732 on Mar 17, 2019, 10:43:09 AM
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Amengar2407 wrote:
Don't focus to much on the weapon part. A moonsorrow will carry you a long way. Put storm brand with Inc crit in it and cast sb manually when you feel you need it. I killed shaper deathless with this. For your maps including t16 you don't need to proc ee in any way. Just use sb on bosses. This build provides such a huge dmg you don't need the ee proc unless facing bosses. And there just cast it Manually. And when you finally manage to find a good weapon just switch. I went up to t14 with a 4l chest and crap weapon and everything died in a second. Changing to 5l and up to t16 everything is one shot. Even t16 with 120% corrupted. Just bosses take a bit longer. But even shaper was fast on a 5l with crap weapon. In my opinion focus more on getting good es. And look for a good roled rime gaze. Costs a chaos and has good es and insane dmg boost. Rainbowstride for boots is awesome too. Get an Amulett with des str implicit and high str and all stats rolls. They come quite cheap and until you get all es dex/Qual str/qual enchanted gear, will completely cover your attribute needs. Killed uelder last league on 9k es 6l chest with mediocre weapon. You can look at my characters in SC ssf for what I used. I didn't change a thing after the kill.


Thanks. I bought the rime gaze, got myself a 5L vaal regalia and upgraded a couple of other bits, made the switch to CI with ~8k ES, seems fine.
buy a 6l necro , with a bit confidence you can get one for 30-40c.
and craft yourself 400 es , pretty easy with alts +regal + moding
Hey OP, nice build. I am currently level 70, just finished the gem setup. Now that i've take off Clarity, i am struggling with mana regen, what i am doing wrong? Here is my profile tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAAbnBx4NfA5IEFERDxFQEZYTbRQJFLAVfhdUGyUc3B0UHdkfQSKBJognqSj6LJwsvzLROw08BT1fQ1RFR0lRSp9LrkwtTLNSU1PUVkhWSlfJXGtd8maeZ3Fp2GvbbRl2gn5ZfqF_xoIehEiIQom8jHaNgo48j0aSdJUul5WX9JhTm6GePJ6hnwGg5qcIpyusmLVItzC3MbiTu_zAZsHFw23G98gM0B_R5Ngk2VvfiukC6-7sGOyK73zv6_DV9HH3wffX-tI=?accountName=sing12&realm=pc&characterName=IAmAFailure

And my items : https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sing12/characters

I cast phase run, and 2 vortex and done.. not enough regen.
So what about Malevolence with Worm Essense?

I understand that we cant use aspect of the spider because not enough mana after that, but Mal gives 20% more damage while aspect just 15% and requires expensive crafting.
Last edited by CaptainSnatch#4501 on Mar 17, 2019, 2:58:40 PM
Can I run every map mod with this build?

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