Zana Shaped Mod not progressing atlas

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Nirosu wrote:

I wish we could get a confirmation that the current situation is a band-aid fix and not the final fix. As the change definitely comes off as a band-aid at best.

A band aid in a long list of band aid's all for the same problem. But i doubt any change. GGG is done with the league.

Hey GGG. This League cost you money for at least the next 2 Leagues from me! Probably ill just stay away from this balance mess for a while.

Just an example of they'r laziness:
The reason so many people didnt like delve is the fuked up balance. the first 150 levels are waaaay harder than all that comes after (~<400). People that didn't care enough simply stopped playing. And GGG in theyr wisdom did not only do nothing to this shitty balance, but made it way worse for the first 3 weeks.

Absolutely No Playtesting (0! QM) + No fast reaction on clearly broken mechanics = Not my kind of leisure anymore.

It took you 5 years and 250 employees to get this bad ggg.

This interaction makes it so the map device can eat up scarabs that would be on the map, even though the map created won't have influence. is there a way to disable the shaper and elder scarabs for the shaped maps?

Bump, still no reaction from GGG... Getting fuckin tired of running T16 UGS without a chance to spawn an atlas objective.

this has to be a band aid fix... or they are just killing low tier/bad layout maps... i won't run low tier and horrible layout maps if i'm unable to use elder zana mod with shaper or elder influence, makes no sense to run this maps if you are now forced to run low tiers to spread or remove influences.. you get low ilvl items, low tier map returns and the feeling of running those terrible layouts just kills the game experience, but yeah feels like it is permanent so i'll try to get away from this game for a while.

nothing in the patch? not even a mention you are working on it?
is WAI really your last word?

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AndrewE_GGG wrote:

New behavior is indeed intended. Sorry this wasn't effectively communicated to players at the time of the change.

WHY? This has ruined purchasing shaped maps off the market place for me, like now I cant use shaped maps on elder areas at all if I didn't shape my atlas on that particular map? This is ridiculous. Why not just fix the exploit by making the elder stuff clear away when the map is completed instead of making shaped maps trading worthless? The zana mod itself is pretty garbage, costing more than purchasing the maps themselves and not allowing you to know what you're up against, or corrupt the map...

Honestly, this kills the end game for me.... I liked the elder influence and shaper influence mechanics and purchasing shaped maps off the market allowed me to play with it beyond just non-shaped red maps without it being a colossal waste of time.

This was the end game fun for me and you just killed it....

Cloudflare error caused double post...

For real though this is the last league I'm playing if this remains permanent.

I try not to rage about games, but this is infuriating, I've literally been waiting for weeks for this to get fixed, only sort of playing because I was waiting for the part I enjoyed the most to be fixed again.

This had the potential to be the best POE yet and you intentionally ruined the atlas, the framework the entire endgame is built upon.. The fuck man. This is depressing...

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AndrewE_GGG wrote:

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Zana Shaped Mod not progressing atlas

This was a side effect of fixing an exploit where using the Zana Shaped mod on a map would not remove the Shaper/Elder influence. The new behaviour is that if a map has a different tier than that on your Atlas, it will not have influence (and hence won't progress Shaper/Elder influence).

For example, If you have a Shaped Shore on your Atlas that is Shaper influenced, running a normal Shore map or an Elder Shore map will not have Shaper influence, only a Shaped Shore will.

I understand that this change may have had unintended consequences. I'll bring it up with the team to verify whether this is intended or not.

This was a pretty bad solution to the problem and a really really poor job of explaining that to your players. I had no idea why this was all broken the last few weeks and have been stumbling into issues with it a lot.

Very frustrating implementation and extremely frustrating communication on this one.

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AndrewE_GGG wrote:

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Zana Shaped Mod not progressing atlas

This was a side effect of fixing an exploit where using the Zana Shaped mod on a map would not remove the Shaper/Elder influence. The new behaviour is that if a map has a different tier than that on your Atlas, it will not have influence (and hence won't progress Shaper/Elder influence).

For example, If you have a Shaped Shore on your Atlas that is Shaper influenced, running a normal Shore map or an Elder Shore map will not have Shaper influence, only a Shaped Shore will.

I understand that this change may have had unintended consequences. I'll bring it up with the team to verify whether this is intended or not.

Can we have this properly fixed? It is ridiculous that you have to play lower level content to correct your elder/shaper influence... And then get lower level master encounters that you possibly don't want...

Honestly, this is just such a cheap, narrow, tunnel vision fix that doesn't fit intended gameplay and I really can't say who actually likes it or feels it intuitive. While I'm on intuitive side, Zana missions also feels extremely unintuitive/confusing in regards of influence/completion bonuses. And please consider that players who post here about this issue have all played your game for years.