Announcing Private Leagues

Can someone explain me why a pleague player cauzes more $cost which would justify the fee

I am all fine with supporting GGG aswell i already did in multiple ways.

I might be wrong but the Private League is nothign more then a perma "prophecies like" modifier and Id carried around by ppl beeing part of

Player 1 playing standart
Player 2 playing private

so,.. what is the diffrence between the 2?
If player2 enters an area the bolean check adds %life %dmg %speed modifiers on the mobs generated in the area ontop of existing ones.
The instances is flaged with an ID only players with the same ID (part of the same leauge) can join? party limit is 6 anyways!

Beeing ID flaged you would not even need new town instances since you could just make everyone invisible without the according ID tag

Oh,.. yeah seperate Chat,.. thats an issue,..

Tho yeah i like the idea but the price is nuts,.. at lesst say you made the price tag to prevent it would make the game become singelplayer/lanparty style.




...and again, i see how you're trying to squeeze another buck out of your fan base
"Is this an out of season April Fools joke?"

Seriously, what?
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Aui wrote:
This WeekEnd Blizzard fu##ed up with the Diablo frenchise.
And now GGG does it as well with PoE!

What the hell is happening? Amswer: It's all about the money.

a) Blizzard needs some money with Diablo, and thinks that mobile is the answer of it. But forgetting that an ARPG is NOT about playing it with a small screen playing with fingers.
b) GGG needs desperatley some money as well. (both Companies ruled by chinese companies right now!) And therefore GGG made this stupid decision to run some kind of self-leagues; hoping to earn more money. But does it function? I dont think so. Why? Because just a few Streamers will spend this high amount of money to run some "private leagues"; but the waste amount of the PoE comunity will NOT spend some money into it.

Both companies (Blizzard AND GGG) have lost the path of the succes of the frenchise. Focusing on making more money both have left the core idea of their games.
a.) Diablo is still boring as Hell.
b.) PoE gets more and more "pay-to-win", or "free-to-test", or "pay-to-succeed", or "pay-to-get-beyond-the-maps", or "pay-to-trade", or "pay-to-access". => without more stash-tabs (trading f.e.) U have [not really] a chance in high Level status to succeed....
So GGG tries to focus on these 16h/day_Players (Streamers). GOOD LUCK!


SO WRONG telling PoE is pay to win... OMG dude
Playing marauder @ Hardcore leagues

How do the Labyrinth ladder jewels work? Are they disabled for the private league?
I'm kinda tired of all those negative comments so lets take some of them apart:

1. It's Pay to Play
No, it isn't. It's a payed feature for groups of players who want the game to be more challanging. You can still enjoy the core gameplay for free.

2. It's soooo expensive
Pricing from anouncement
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Chris wrote:
Private leagues cost 120 points to create. By default, they last 10 days and have 10 player slots.

Additional blocks of 10 player slots can be purchased for 60 points.
Additional blocks of 100 player slots can be purchased for 600 points.
Additional blocks of 10 days can be purchased for 60 points.
Additional blocks of 30 days can be purchased for 180 points.
Additional mods that make the game more challenging can be added for free at league creation.

You can add additional player slots and days at any time once the league has started.

Currently you can't extend a league beyond two months in length, as the system is new and we are still experimenting with it.

For a single player its not cheap, but if you play with a group of players it's actally quite cheap (and it's offering crowd funding options). So lets break down the true costs for private leagues:

The initial cost of private league is 12$. An additional month (30 days) of playtime costs 18$. So for a single player the first 40 days cost 30$ and every additional month costs another 18$.

But if you have one more friend to play with it's already down to 15$ for the first 40 days and an additional month costs just 9$ (I've seen someone compare the pricing to wow: if you play with just 1 friend PoE private league will be cheaper).

If you manage to get a group on one of these private leagues the initial cost for 40 days gametime will me 5$/person and an additional month will be just 3$ more. That price will be payable with a kids pocket money (he would still have to convince his parents to pay for it though).

If you try to min/max the price per person and fill your private league with a total of 10 players the first 40 days will cost 3$/person. Each additional month will cost another 1.8$/person.

The way I understand it, the additional player slots will be a single investment (comment from GGG apriciated). Since they will be able to share the cost of the private league adding more players to the league will make the total cost/player even cheaper. If you have to pay 6$ for the 11th player will be kinda rough but if you manage to find batches of 10 players they will have to pay just 60cent each to join the league.

Looking at these prices it's true that it will be pretty expansive for a single player but the prices will get pretty affortable with any kind of group to play with.

3. But it's Pay to Win
For all those who say this (though I doupt there will be many reading this): You havent realy read the article. It says that the mods will only serve to make the game more challanging. You will not get any free exp, extra loot or anything like that. That means the only thing you can win by paying the respect of your friends (by winning ridicolus dares like "I dare you to kill Uber eldar no stash no drop no vending famine deathless with durability").

4. Where are my races
In the beginning of the announcment they clearly statet that they will continue to run these special events so no worries about that. Races will not be outsourced to private leagues.
Quote from original announcment
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Chris wrote:
We'll continue to run special events like these in the future.


5. They can pay to play all leagues
No, they can not. Chris stated, that your private leagues can only be based of core permanent or challange leagues that are currently running. Even though I would love to visit some of the old leagues again (I loved perandus and sadly my PC was too weak to properly breach at that time) those aren't running leagues.

6. The game is already hard enough as it is
If that is the case you can just choose to ignore this feature without losing anything at all. You dont need to complain about it.

7. What about PoE mobile / PoE Immortal
They announced another non-3.5 Announcment for tomorrow so look forward to that :P



With that out of the way all I have to say is this:
@GGG: I love your idea and I hope it will be executed well.
As stated above I would love to play some of the olde leagues again. Just as an idea from a fan: Maybe you could give players the chance to play these leagues again as private league migrateable to standard league only and without trading into the current challange league? Just the old league "connected" to standard league (if any connection exists at all). That would give players the chance to visit old leagues again without them being able to flood the current challange leagues with uniques from past leagues.

Thank you and keep up the good work :)
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Ondrugs wrote:
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Sorry I'll try short message (It's already too long)

>>>>>>>>LL builds are very expesnive builds, a natural outcome. But you are able to play Lowlife without a shavronne's by just using a flask for example.
--> https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_utility_flasks
So you don't have the "must have" requirement.

Since Energy got nerfed so badly, shavronne's is also not expensive anymore and can be easily bought at start of a league (sure the prices are equally to the one later, but actually cheaper since you pay less in direct currency)

- That's only example, because my most experience are before POE 1.0.0 that's shav have very high es and not nerf (still has 1.2x behind CI node). If it not same view-point as you about ES, I'm sorry.
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For me 7 year without it drop XD.


>>>>>> "Path of exile:
Initial release date: October 23, 2013"

So you could maximum talk about 5 years not 7.

The really important question here is, how much hours you played active?

- I think I play before 1.0.0 because have Koam 1000HP (don't know exact time) and have shav 400 ES (buy long ago). For how much hours you played active? maybe 4 Hr. per day (when playing around v0.9 - 2.0 )/ absent 2-3 year and recently play
If count playtime with fusing orb I have around 9,500 (with 6,000 cannot fuse 6L [super bad luck])

And please be at ease. Even if you played 10.000 hours or more till now, that's not a quarantee to drop a mirror even once. But all your chars using gear and items I wouldn't even need, to play endgame content or deal with Shaper/Elder/Ulab/Uatziri and you talking about a shavronne's. SO why you would like to make it even more cheaper or easier?

- It's good to cheep for other who want(not me). Is it not better?. They'll cheep because more seller, not the quality of item drop, it'll goes as marketing cycle (demand/supply).

- But all your chars using gear and items I wouldn't even need
// Yes because I'm not trader all of my currency still not use(I don't know why I not use it), my gear are most 95-99% self-found,(not play SSF because play with friend) normally, I don't estimate other player skill/value with their gear/item (they play what they like with their style). I'm just play for fun, with use cheep gear as I can (Because, I like that style). Don't worry about my gaming skill just above average a little for all game, and I play well at all Hard Core game.


Last edited by TSilverwing#2057 on Nov 5, 2018, 8:30:38 AM
I don't get the players in here, there is nothing said about p2w and there aren't more and more feature's that say anything about it.

You can easily beat the game without buying anything and this private league's will just make the game HARDER,..... So you guys crying about being not able to die more often, because 1,2 $/€ is to much for you to pay for 10 days something that breaks your neck in every 2-3 sec you get into it.... What is your problem? The most of you aren't even playing these mods anyway or planning on using these leagues. It's just a content added to the game for all that want it or whom is bored of the acrual league's.

Are all the lil crybabies from D3 now come over here and cry about anything that is not into their point of view? OR how people really can get mad about such stuff?

Please guys first try to read properly and get to know what it means and don't just read "payed-private-leagues" and get crazy about nothing.... geez
I've said for years that PoE is a whaling operation. I know you guys don't give a shit about casual players that spend small amounts. But man, this really takes it to a new level. You might as well have just named all the streamers in this announcement, because that is who this is for.

Well done. You've put something out that flat-out will not exist for 99% of your user base. This is peak GGG.
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