{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

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Gorkk wrote:
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FutureFear wrote:
Or roll until the 2 on top are green -> then go the crafting bench and use the craft two sockets (cost 1 jeweler's orb) -> then use the the craft 3 sockets (cost 3 jeweler's orb) go back and forth between those 2 crafts until you get a 3th green socket. After that move a step up, and go back and forth between 3 socket craft and 4 socket craft, until you hit the 4th green socket. easy.
(it can take a while and consumes ALOT of jeweler's orbs)

You want to make them 2 sockets only and then craft 2 greens rather than trying to get the first 2 green by rolling them ;)


We have to have some currency drain somehere do we not? :p
it's not like chromatics are a problem...

Anyway the craft would indeed be faster and probably cheaper... then again I would just buy them.

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haitike wrote:
If someone is interested, I modified this build to add spiders (Arakaali's fang) and it worked very well. The 20 spiders DPS is huge, higher than the 11 skeletons. They can clean maps alone perfectly. If you add up spiders, skeletons, zombies and specters the damage is insane (plus vaal skeletons).

The modifications I did were:
- In the dagger: minion damage, damage of full life, melee splash (Spiders are very aggressive, they don't need feeding frenzy)
- I removed desecrate from CwW+Spirit Offering and I moved it to Cyclone+ CwC + Ball Lightning. This way, while we apply EE and Victarios with cyclone we create corpses above us in case Spirit Offering triggers. And it allows me to manually summoning the spiders if needed.
- I got a belt with 18% flask used reduction so I can use the The Writhing Jar three times if needed and I can't refill it (although it rarely happens)
- I got enduring bound in the tree (31% minion duration). Together with Mistress of Sacrifice the spiders last more than 1 minute.
- I got a "minions have 7% chance to blind on attacks" jewel (with more stats). The 20 spiders blind everything very fast with melee splash so I don't need flesh and Stone.

And finally I discovered something amazing. When I use cyclone on enemies (for the boots fortify) the CwC desecrate ground applies degen and spiders are created even if my other minions are doing the killing blow. So at the end, I rarely need to use the Writhing jar. Only at the beginning of a map (and you can even skip it, the 20 spiders will spawn anyway with the degen and your other minions) or specially for big bosses.

Even that, Summoning the spiders with the Jar is easy anyway with this setup. You start CwC cyclone and click the flask hotkey while cycloning and autodesecrating. And you have 20 spiders.

One downside I found is that our zombies are weaker (no zombie claw with maim and damage), but the dps increase was worth it. You loose some slots too that were used in stuff like Puryfing flame or SRS or GMP on Ball lightning. And of course the dagger is expensive (1.2 EX right now).

I hope this is useful for someone.

In your setup you do not have hatred linked to generosity, so you're messing up your EE with melee hits (and with your ball lightning if you ever get +phys to spells). You could potentially also drop the skeletons to 3L and put the zombies there as well: less socket starved, generosity is back, your zombies are better with the helmet +skill, and with a “target” helmet of +3 minion + minion damage, this should be good enough.

With some many corpses around you though, it could be worth looking around at other ascendencies maybe instead of bone barrier (and to be really careful around corpse exploding monsters obviously).
Just wanted to jump in and say great build. My gear is garbage, yet I'm almost 94 with single-digit deaths... I think that's a record for me. Haven't tried shaper or uber elder yet though.

For upgrade priorities I'm thinking I should start with helm/amulet/boots. Thoughts? (I'm only at 5.3k life too, so probably need to focus on upping that)

Might also try switching my 6L setup to include chain like Herc suggested.

Bad English sorry !!\
Started this league kinda late

Is the Victarios. UNQ shield a must have item can it be replaced ? if yes whats the best replacement items for it ? another shield ? or a weapon ++ for minions ?

started this league late curetly lvl 88 having a blast with this build
doing red maps left and right with poop gear
dropped cyc cwc electro ballz poinson
wanted to go full Necromancer Experience <3
i wanted to ask whats is the curent best raise a spectre to have
im using the kitava devils ( forgot name) can be found on cathedral rooftop
those jumping and shooting devils they are like a vacum cleaner for trash mobstotale love em
also any tips on what gear to use for animated guardian ?
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haitike wrote:
If someone is interested, I modified this build to add spiders (Arakaali's fang) and it worked very well. The 20 spiders DPS is huge, higher than the 11 skeletons. They can clean maps alone perfectly. If you add up spiders, skeletons, zombies and specters the damage is insane (plus vaal skeletons).

The modifications I did were:
- In the dagger: minion damage, damage of full life, melee splash (Spiders are very aggressive, they don't need feeding frenzy)
- I removed desecrate from CwW+Spirit Offering and I moved it to Cyclone+ CwC + Ball Lightning. This way, while we apply EE and Victarios with cyclone we create corpses above us in case Spirit Offering triggers. And it allows me to manually summoning the spiders if needed.
- I got a belt with 18% flask used reduction so I can use the The Writhing Jar three times if needed and I can't refill it (although it rarely happens)
- I got enduring bound in the tree (31% minion duration). Together with Mistress of Sacrifice the spiders last more than 1 minute.
- I got a "minions have 7% chance to blind on attacks" jewel (with more stats). The 20 spiders blind everything very fast with melee splash so I don't need flesh and Stone.

And finally I discovered something amazing. When I use cyclone on enemies (for the boots fortify) the CwC desecrate ground applies degen and spiders are created even if my other minions are doing the killing blow. So at the end, I rarely need to use the Writhing jar. Only at the beginning of a map (and you can even skip it, the 20 spiders will spawn anyway with the degen and your other minions) or specially for big bosses.

Even that, Summoning the spiders with the Jar is easy anyway with this setup. You start CwC cyclone and click the flask hotkey while cycloning and autodesecrating. And you have 20 spiders.

One downside I found is that our zombies are weaker (no zombie claw with maim and damage), but the dps increase was worth it. You loose some slots too that were used in stuff like Puryfing flame or SRS or GMP on Ball lightning. And of course the dagger is expensive (1.2 EX right now).

I hope this is useful for someone.

In your setup you do not have hatred linked to generosity, so you're messing up your EE with melee hits (and with your ball lightning if you ever get +phys to spells). You could potentially also drop the skeletons to 3L and put the zombies there as well: less socket starved, generosity is back, your zombies are better with the helmet +skill, and with a “target” helmet of +3 minion + minion damage, this should be good enough.

With some many corpses around you though, it could be worth looking around at other ascendencies maybe instead of bone barrier (and to be really careful around corpse exploding monsters obviously).


The gloves links are temporal because I didn't want to make two offcolors because I'm going to buy Grip of the Council soon anyway. My idea was hatred+generocity and CwdT+Spirit offering in the gloves and move the carrion golem with the skeletons.

But your idea is great. I will buy a good +3 helmet after the gloves and use it for skeletons and zombies.

Oh, and I didn't think about the new corpse nodes in the necromancer ascendancy. Although I like the bone barrier skill and improved resistances and defense, it could be really good idea to check.

Thanks for the input!
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jphil03 wrote:
Hey guys, I am new to this build and very much still learning POE. Could anyone take a look at my build, and give some hints on what to work on next. I think it is Grip of the Council and Discpline watchers eye.

Thanks,



I would try to get 500-600+ ES on your Vaal Regalia. Then try to get either +1 to socketed gems and Maim OR two different support gems on your claw. This will be really easy with alteration spam, though getting all three together will be difficult.

Then I would try to get +2/3 and Minion Damage on your helmet, 30% Movement Speed on boots, and (not sure since you didn't include it) both a Quicksilver Flask of Adrenaline and a normal Silver Flask.

Then, if you can drop the belt (if you have overcapped your resistances and don't need that life for mapping), you can also buy a String of Servitude with the movement speed implicit, and move Holy Relic to your shield in the place of Flame Dash and use Smoke Mine on your ring, since when you activate it you get +30% Movement Speed for 5 seconds.

For Grip of the Council, I would wait since the build might change to include Triad's Grip, and I don't think that the Watcher's Eye is a priority. Though if you can get that one, it certainly isn't bad.

Edit: Just saw your profile, your top priority should be the Uber Lab, that +2 is HUGE damage boost that you shouldn't ignore. Also, if you are ok with using Bone Armour, you can also drop the "remove bleeding" on your flask and use something else, since Bone Armour makes both us and our minions immune to bleeding.

Also, if you are interested in clearspeed, I would drop controlled destruction and summon phantasm for Spell Echo and Pierce. At least with Frost Sentinels, I can guarantee that they will make you clear a lot faster.[/quote]


Hey, I was lucky and got a doctor card which I managed to sell for 7ex. I want to use that to invest in this build, but again I am struggling to know what to do first without harming it too much. Would be grateful for any advice.
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Yakiro9021 wrote:
Is the Victarios. UNQ shield a must have item can it be replaced ? if yes whats the best replacement items for it ? another shield ? or a weapon ++ for minions ?

It's not per se mandatory, considering about nothing in the build is, it will work without it.

However giving 3 frenzy charges to minions thanks to it is about 45% more damage if I recall correctly, so it's pretty nice to have (and not too expensive).

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jphil03 wrote:
Hey, I was lucky and got a doctor card which I managed to sell for 7ex. I want to use that to invest in this build, but again I am struggling to know what to do first without harming it too much. Would be grateful for any advice.


Boots with Fortify would be a great addition, and you can find some decent not too expensive. Adding fortify to your cyclone means you'll have almost perma fortify and thus much increased survivability.
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I'm currently 94 and still using a Tabula. I'm pushing into red maps, and I really need to get a better chest. Prices are _stupid_. I'm thinking I might finally, after how many years of playing this game, really try to craft something real.

My question is, since this is a hybrid build, so I go with Astral Plate for the life mods, or Vaal Regalia for the ES? Or do I go with (Saintly?) Chain?

My gear:
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I have about 3-4 ex I can blow on an chest. What to do?

Also, I still don't have a watcher's eye, but I do have an ES on hit claw and rare jewel, which seems pretty solid?
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Callipygian wrote:
I'm currently 94 and still using a Tabula. I'm pushing into red maps, and I really need to get a better chest. Prices are _stupid_. I'm thinking I might finally, after how many years of playing this game, really try to craft something real.

My question is, since this is a hybrid build, so I go with Astral Plate for the life mods, or Vaal Regalia for the ES? Or do I go with (Saintly?) Chain?

My gear:
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I have about 3-4 ex I can blow on an chest. What to do?

Also, I still don't have a watcher's eye, but I do have an ES on hit claw and rare jewel, which seems pretty solid?


I'd go for the regalia. Note that you have decent 6L chests for about 1ex with the right colouring: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Blight/eJJOKrcL and uncorrupted infernal mantle (better than your tabula) as low as 40c https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Blight/3LErX9i5 (need to do the colouring which should not be too hard for 2G4B on int base).

For your other gear, i'll try first:
  • getting a claw with supports for your zombies (not necessarily +1 all and maim right away, a claw with faster attacks and elemental support for example will be a nice boost); a gemini claw with maim alone is only a few chaos at most
  • getting boots with Fortify support
  • another helmet with +2 minion and more useful stats (you really don't need those spectres survivability buffs)


With using a gemini claw like you do, you can also (if you can spare it) craft a “channeling skills have -3 to total mana cost” prefix on your amulet or a ring to get free cyclone and no longer need a mana pot for no regen maps (the mana on hit - not es like you said - on the claw will give you the mana to cast your skeletons).
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Gorkk wrote:
...and uncorrupted infernal mantle (better than your tabula) as low as 40c

Do NOT use Infernal Mantle. Our reserved mana puts us at Low Mana, which will cause the Mantle to increase the spell damage we take. Not good.

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