{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

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Hercanic wrote:

@ anderalw:

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anderalw wrote:

any suggestion?

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any suggestion?

Switch out Empower until you have a +1 weapon or better. +2 is subpar compared to other supports, especially when Zombies are naturally tankier now and we're no longer using the Agony Crawler (to hit breakpoints).

Maim and Fortify on Skeletons were stand-ins during 3.7. Feeding Frenzy has proven itself to be very nice. Even against bosses, the Skele-Dash helps them get to and stick on their target. Mobile bosses were a huge thorn in our Skeleton DPS before, but now Skele-Dash solves this.

Fortify instead of GMP with Cyclone would improve survival without losing much coverage. Just wiggle a little while traveling to spread out the Balls as needed. Their 22 unit radius is deceptively larger than their visual effect.

You no longer need Unearth+GMP. That is a relic of 3.7. We can now use Desecrate. It no longer has a cooldown and creates 5 corpses for only one socket. This opens up a socket for whatever else you want, such as a curse, Consecrated Ground from Purifying Flame, or whatever you want. You could even forget linking to CWDT and put in an entirely separate skill, like Holy Relic.

Try to craft yourself a Quicksilver with Adrenaline.

Thanks for the help, I would like to take one more question, which spectrum should I use and holy relic is better than carrion golem?

I am enjoying playing with this build, very enjoyable.

Here are my gears, what gems should i take out when got a 6l armour for spectre?
CWDT and CWC all work well, i can face tank(almost) t16 corupted rare with my gear.



PS: Is triad gloves 2B-2W good with hatred? or it must be G and W?

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Insane_Goat wrote:

I like killing everything.

I do use that 2x Chaos Recipe but I am lazy and I keep identifying stuff or picking up good stuff and don't have space for chaos recipe.. as I am still looking for gear..

I too enjoy wiping all teh evil from the map!! It's why I became an exile... well that & the loots!

The Item Filter linked earlier can help with your... 'problem', which is something I also suffer from, by colouring the T1 items and 'not good' tier items differently, so it's easy to identify which could be useful (by identifying and equipping) vs what to use in chaos/et al recipes.

Also as a good example of what this build is capable of, I have just completed uber elder (2nd attempt this league) deathless (only my 2nd deathless run ever), with the (mostly) modest gear listed here:


Am also using a watchers eye (that dropped on my first Uber Elder kill) 5% life, 5% ES, 4% mana, with "regenerate 2.02% of ES per sec while affected by Discipline"... it's the only notable stat and not sure if it actually helps or not but sounds good. And have an Unending Hunger jewel purchased early in league (105c) and minion abyssal jewels, with taunt + life and blind + life and a life + resists (all found & alteration/regal or alch spam crafted) but couldn't work out how to link these from the passive tree :)

I'm still looking to improve the gear... have shaper & elder base jade amulets I'm going to try & craft into something "good", which I'm hoping will then let me replace the ring with dex for something with more life/es/res. Also have another claw I'm working on (want the +1 to sockets as well as maim), as well as another pair of boots (to try and get fortify + movement speed + life/ES), decided I can do without the +1 to spectre level on the boots, the current bottle neck being fossils to craft with.

Regards,
Cypr3ss.

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I've been following @Hercaninc's build testing today and i've tried to use myself these new items and socket links with great succes:

I still don't understand the purpose of skitterbot with bone chill. Can someone please enlighten me? If i find that the mana reserved are too high, can I just remove the bonechill and still be effective? 6% mana left is a bit too low for me.

First i like to thank Hercanic for the great guide. Its very well written and there are a lot of informations in it, almost like a compendium. I always wanted to try a summoner build and this league i gave it a shot and never regret it. Clear is fast and bosses are a breeze.

I tried both variants and i went with triad grip. I realy like the mobility of blade whirl and the combined movement speed of smoke mine, quicksilver and silver flask. Of course you dont have fortify and are missing the life roll on the gloves, but damage seems to be much higher, according to pob.

Tip: To simulate triad grip in pob, you can manually add "100% of physical damage converted to cold damage" to the shield and activate necromantic aegis on the tree.

I also use double carrion Golem in the zombies link and activate Golem commander with an intuitive leap gem. In pob they give only around 10% damage increase to my specters and skeletons with my current setup, but they realy contribute to clear Speed, acording from my short testing. If they cant hold up in endgame maps i drop them.

I plan to switch holy relic to animated Guardian, mainly for the fortify aura, can anybody tell how this works out during mapping? How big is the radius of the aura and will the Guardian follow you closely?

Here is my gear, most of it was like 2 or 3 chaos, except the armor (3ex) and the unending hunger (110c).

Hi,

About EE : do i have to ban all my item with fire damage, cold damage ? and elemental damage ? I need only lightning damage in one spot ?


About the claw : We need at first Supports Gem Level. We don't need life hit leech ? What is the perfect Claw for u ?

Thx for all.
Very nice build !

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Jacob1618 wrote:

Hi,

About EE : do i have to ban all my item with fire damage, cold damage ? and elemental damage ? I need only lightning damage in one spot ?


About the claw : We need at first Supports Gem Level. We don't need life hit leech ? What is the perfect Claw for u ?

Thx for all.
Very nice build !

For EE, it depends on what spectres you're using. If you're using frost sentinels, then your minions deal physical & cold damage, so you only have to avoid anything that adds cold damage to your attacks/spells. If you're using a fire-based spectre (solar guards, goatman fire-raisers, fire sentinels, or the like), then you'll want to avoid any added fire damage as well. You just want to not be using the element that your minions are using (and remember that Hatred + Generosity gives them added cold damage).

ok hear me out...The Stampede w/: fortify, cyclone, cwc, ice nova or discharge or something. In other words, we get minion dmg, and instead of storm orb reaching mobs we will get to them in a faster pace. We shouldnt have waste another socket for GMP for something(orb) that we are not focused on. We are here for minion dmg. THere are other skills that can "spread out" w/o gmp

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sengson3rd wrote:

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I've been following @Hercaninc's build testing today and i've tried to use myself these new items and socket links with great succes:

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KrisTi969 wrote:

First of all I would like to thank @Hercanic for this amazing build, this is my first league ever despite playing on and off since the beta of poe started and i've been having a blast.

I've been following @Hercaninc's build testing today and i've tried to use myself these new items and socket links with great succes:

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Elemental army and the Triad Grip gloves with all green sockets seem to instantly melt during mapping and the addition of whirlwind blades and the smoke mine bring quite a lot of clear speed during map clearing. Although we do end up losing fortify on cyclone.

My question is: what should i replace a green socket in my old chest(for lacking new chromes, shame on me). Was thinking maybe replacing chain with controlled destruction, until @Hercanic is done testing and tells us his results.

Chest in question:

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Also a warm thanks to all the others who take the time to answer fellow exiles. You are all wonderful.

I still don't understand the purpose of skitterbot with bone chill. Can someone please enlighten me? If i find that the mana reserved are too high, can I just remove the bonechill and still be effective? 6% mana left is a bit too low for me.

Skitterbot give chill aura (10% slow), bonechill make it to 15%. Also "Enemies Chilled by Supported Skills have Cold Damage taken increased by Chill Effect" , that's means enemy received 15% more cold dmg from our minion.

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Jacob1618 wrote:

Hi,

About EE : do i have to ban all my item with fire damage, cold damage ? and elemental damage ? I need only lightning damage in one spot ?


About the claw : We need at first Supports Gem Level. We don't need life hit leech ? What is the perfect Claw for u ?

Thx for all.
Very nice build !

Yes you should have only lightning dmg (check your tooltip ingame) or you can take Avatar of fire (1 point) to deal only cold dmg.
We using claw cause of "life gain on hit" implict, it's about 30x10=300 life regen per second per enemy. We don't deal dmg ourself so "%dmg leech as life" is useless for us. Best claw maybe: life and mana gain implict, 3 socket gem, +1 socket gem, minion dmg and empty prefix for minion speed?

BTW, how can we multi quote?

Hey friends,

I feel like I'm not doing enough damage for super quick clears.

I think there is something wrong with my build that may cause it to not proc EE, especially when the range of frost sentinels is further than mine.

My helmet also gives minion fire damage, could that be an issue?



Here's the rest of my gear