{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

First of all I would like to thank @Hercanic for this amazing build, this is my first league ever despite playing on and off since the beta of poe started and i've been having a blast.

I've been following @Hercaninc's build testing today and i've tried to use myself these new items and socket links with great succes:

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Elemental army and the Triad Grip gloves with all green sockets seem to instantly melt during mapping and the addition of whirlwind blades and the smoke mine bring quite a lot of clear speed during map clearing. Although we do end up losing fortify on cyclone.

My question is: what should i replace a green socket in my old chest(for lacking new chromes, shame on me). Was thinking maybe replacing chain with controlled destruction, until @Hercanic is done testing and tells us his results.

Chest in question:

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Also a warm thanks to all the others who take the time to answer fellow exiles. You are all wonderful.
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Gorkk wrote:

I'd go for the regalia. Note that you have decent 6L chests for about 1ex with the right colouring: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Blight/eJJOKrcL and uncorrupted infernal mantle (better than your tabula) as low as 40c https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Blight/3LErX9i5 (need to do the colouring which should not be too hard for 2G4B on int base).


That was my thinking (the Vaal Regalia). Even white 2 links with ilvl >= 86 were something like 1-2ex when I looked? I assume I'd want an Elder or Shaper base?

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Gorkk wrote:

For your other gear, i'll try first:
getting a claw with supports for your zombies (not necessarily +1 all and maim right away, a claw with faster attacks and elemental support for example will be a nice boost); a gemini claw with maim alone is only a few chaos at most


It's on the list. Survivability has been more problematic than damage for me, as I get into 12s and 13s. So I'm looking to boost that first, and my thinking is that 100 health on a chest would go a long way towards that.


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Gorkk wrote:

getting boots with Fortify support


Yeah. Ball Lightning + GMP is pretty sweet. I actually forgot about this, so I'll see if I can find some soon.

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Gorkk wrote:

another helmet with +2 minion and more useful stats (you really don't need those spectres survivability buffs)


Yep, it's true. The helm's been so solid though. Getting the extra +1 level is just a super low priority at the moment. Though it's in the plan.

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Gorkk wrote:

With using a gemini claw like you do, you can also (if you can spare it) craft a “channeling skills have -3 to total mana cost” prefix on your amulet or a ring to get free cyclone and no longer need a mana pot for no regen maps (the mana on hit - not es like you said - on the claw will give you the mana to cast your skeletons).


Yeah, I've got the enchant. I haven't felt the need to because mana hasn't been an issue with this build.... like ever. I haven't used a mana pot (aside from no regen maps) since something like level 10.

Thanks for the response, some good tips in there for me to follow up on!
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Hercanic wrote:
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Gorkk wrote:
...and uncorrupted infernal mantle (better than your tabula) as low as 40c

Do NOT use Infernal Mantle. Our reserved mana puts us at Low Mana, which will cause the Mantle to increase the spell damage we take. Not good.


Oh right, missed that part, my bad. So non infernal mantles around 1ex then.
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KrisTi969 wrote:
My question is: what should i replace a green socket in my old chest(for lacking new chromes, shame on me). Was thinking maybe replacing chain with controlled destruction, until @Hercanic is done testing and tells us his results.


You can try to get vorici in research and hope a blue gets white ;)
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Callipygian wrote:
That was my thinking (the Vaal Regalia). Even white 2 links with ilvl >= 86 were something like 1-2ex when I looked? I assume I'd want an Elder or Shaper base?


Don't think Elder or Shaper base is really that useful (particularly considering the steep price increase). As far as I can see you could get
  • Shaper: +1 active skills (nice), physical taken as cold or lightning
  • Elder: %increased max life, physical taken as fire

Considering the price of those bases, you'd rather try to craft a +1 max spectres from a Delve drop imho.

To be honest with your budget, I'd rather go for a decent (non infernal mantle) existing 6L for 1-1.5ex right now and worry about crafting (which often requires a high investment unless lucky) later, and then try to go for a +1 max spectre chest (probably with other upgrades before like the claw and helm).

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Callipygian wrote:
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Gorkk wrote:

For your other gear, i'll try first:
getting a claw with supports for your zombies (not necessarily +1 all and maim right away, a claw with faster attacks and elemental support for example will be a nice boost); a gemini claw with maim alone is only a few chaos at most


It's on the list. Survivability has been more problematic than damage for me, as I get into 12s and 13s. So I'm looking to boost that first, and my thinking is that 100 health on a chest would go a long way towards that.

Health is alway (doubly with spirit offering) good for us, and good base ES is really nice though.

For survivability, there's also a very good option that I actually have been using for a while which involves sacrificing the ball lightning (and thus have more difficulties with EE and frenzy charges during regular clear, but not so much when needed) and use CWC desecrate spirit offering, as you end up spamming the ES heal from spirit offering (be sure to deactivate screen shake in option though).

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Callipygian wrote:

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Gorkk wrote:

With using a gemini claw like you do, you can also (if you can spare it) craft a “channeling skills have -3 to total mana cost” prefix on your amulet or a ring to get free cyclone and no longer need a mana pot for no regen maps (the mana on hit - not es like you said - on the claw will give you the mana to cast your skeletons).


Yeah, I've got the enchant. I haven't felt the need to because mana hasn't been an issue with this build.... like ever. I haven't used a mana pot (aside from no regen maps) since something like level 10.

It's honestly absolutely useless in normal maps, it's just quality of life for those no regen maps so you don't have to worry about that stupid mana flask (2 slots freed in inventory, no need to swap flasks).
Last edited by Gorkk on Sep 17, 2019, 4:57:42 PM


That's my gear so far, switching to the animated guardian now, what will be the best Items to equipp? Didn't use it before^^

But atm this build is working rly fine, nice idea with the boots
I've got 4 green sockets on Triad Grip finally.
How do you use all those spells in it? How do you proc EE for -50% cold res?
Storm Brand seems work more worse than Ball Lightning+GMP.
Played a bit more with this setup with Arakaali fang and I never had such fast clear of red maps. Big yes for spiders, according to PoB I got 9m+ shaper dps(everything up, more like 3m+).
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Carrion golem is being replaced by minnion damage again.

I will give up on skitterbots, put hatred+generosity in their place and better support spiders(need advice).

Need to put discipline somewhere.

About Survivability: Havent died yet in t14+ maps at all.
https://pastebin.com/vFPNwCg3

any Ideas?
@ KrisTi969:
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KrisTi969 wrote:
First of all I would like to thank @Hercanic for this amazing build, this is my first league ever despite playing on and off since the beta of poe started and i've been having a blast.

I've been following @Hercaninc's build testing today and i've tried to use myself these new items and socket links with great succes:

Spoiler


Elemental army and the Triad Grip gloves with all green sockets seem to instantly melt during mapping and the addition of whirlwind blades and the smoke mine bring quite a lot of clear speed during map clearing. Although we do end up losing fortify on cyclone.

My question is: what should i replace a green socket in my old chest(for lacking new chromes, shame on me). Was thinking maybe replacing chain with controlled destruction, until @Hercanic is done testing and tells us his results.

Chest in question:

Spoiler




Also a warm thanks to all the others who take the time to answer fellow exiles. You are all wonderful.
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what should i replace a green socket in my old chest(for lacking new chromes, shame on me). Was thinking maybe replacing chain with controlled destruction

Phantasms, being Physical, also benefit strongly from Cold Triad Grip, so they're worth considering. More eyes, more independent targeting, and Phantasms spawning within a group are like a slower version of Chain (or a minion-based Ice Shot).

Controlled Destruction should be fine.

Spell Echo would be more total DPS and faster initial response, there's just the 2-cast lockdown to consider. If you get too far ahead they'll just teleport onto you, so it really only affects how quickly they'll re-target when their initial target dies.




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Naadirius wrote:


That's my gear so far, switching to the animated guardian now, what will be the best Items to equipp? Didn't use it before^^

But atm this build is working rly fine, nice idea with the boots
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switching to the animated guardian now, what will be the best Items to equipp?

Check out the original FAQ. I cover the Animated Guardian's gear options there.




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Singrave wrote:
I've got 4 green sockets on Triad Grip finally.
How do you use all those spells in it? How do you proc EE for -50% cold res?
Storm Brand seems work more worse than Ball Lightning+GMP.
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How do you proc EE for -50% cold res?

Cyclone with added elemental damage on my ring (jewel is also an option) procs EE and Frenzy Charges while mapping. For Blight and bosses I want to stay away from I will use Storm Brand.
Last edited by Hercanic on Sep 17, 2019, 7:08:31 PM

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