[3.5] Occult ArcPoet - All Content | Millions+ DPS | ÜElder | Delve 1k+ | Videos

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blekotacz wrote:

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Cyrix1337 wrote:

Eeeeh.

You don't seem to quite .......

In the exact time as i posted this post i got curious, if the sock can "stack" or "ramp up" or whatever we will call it and found out that i can, your post is just another confirmation that my assumption was correct :) So thank you for this clarification.

That Indigon stuff make sence, never thought about it this way, so thank you again :)

And last think ... i wasnt trying to improve clear speed, i was perfectly happy with the previous one ... until i randomly got this enchant and now i cant belive i could play without it :) Sadly my next upgrades are the ones that cost tons of exalts ....

No worries! I am happy to clear those things up for you!

Yeah, shock can stack - you need really high damage though. Fortunatly we have that.
Indigon is quite difficult to grok, yeah haha. ^^

Well, I kinda like to play a build which can be improved for a long time. ^^ I kinda think this build is cool in the sense that one can start playing it with ~1EX investment and then fairly smoothly gear out everything else till you hit the really expensive stuff late in the game. It are also not minor updates that are superexpensive and unreasonable (like a +1curse presence of chayula or such nonsense) - but actually more or less affordable ones.

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Cyrix1337 wrote:

No worries! I am happy to clear those things up for you!

Yeah, shock can stack - you need really high damage though. Fortunatly we have that.
Indigon is quite difficult to grok, yeah haha. ^^

Well, I kinda like to play a build which can be improved for a long time. ^^ I kinda think this build is cool in the sense that one can start playing it with ~1EX investment and then fairly smoothly gear out everything else till you hit the really expensive stuff late in the game. It are also not minor updates that are superexpensive and unreasonable (like a +1curse presence of chayula or such nonsense) - but actually more or less affordable ones.

Yeah, im glad that somebody made this Indigon calculator :) it helps alot. You should put into this guide this tool for Ball Lightning DPS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rz9F8-PfsijZ_kNUNWURiRQabMCRbuaVGaLTie_oLDw/edit

I think all builds can be pushed into insanity with cost :) some are just more rewarding then others (KB/Barrage still rocks in ex/power ratio :) the think is, i play my builds 3-4 days before i swap to new one :D but i kind a hope ill stick with one a bit longer, dig a bit deeper :D So maybe there will be time for +1 Chayula :)

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blekotacz wrote:

Yeah, im glad that somebody made this Indigon calculator :) it helps alot. You should put into this guide this tool for Ball Lightning DPS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rz9F8-PfsijZ_kNUNWURiRQabMCRbuaVGaLTie_oLDw/edit

I think all builds can be pushed into insanity with cost :) some are just more rewarding then others (KB/Barrage still rocks in ex/power ratio :) the think is, i play my builds 3-4 days before i swap to new one :D but i kind a hope ill stick with one a bit longer, dig a bit deeper :D So maybe there will be time for +1 Chayula :)

Not sure about that calculator. It says 'tooltip dps' which is supersuspect.

If it means the PoB tooltip - okay.

But the InGameTooltip one is hot garbage - it only shows increases and damage values applying to your own character. Things like curses, penetration and shock are not being shown in the InGame tooltip since those things apply to the enemy.

Im quite sure it means PoB tooltip DPS.

Another topic .... the Arctic Armour ... is it worth the damage lose we would otherwise have from indigon?

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blekotacz wrote:

Im quite sure it means PoB tooltip DPS.

Another topic .... the Arctic Armour ... is it worth the damage lose we would otherwise have from indigon?

Yeah, makes sense.
One of my BallLightnings has 2.6Mio DPS according to it. With 4 casts a second thats 10Mio Ball Lightning on top of the 3Mio Arc DPS. That seems about right.

13Mio DPS is kinda stupid. It kinda assumes optimal conditions though - usually one stands quite close to the enemy like with minotaur for example or the enemy isn't stationary and runs through the ball lightnings towards you. This all reduces the uptime BallLightings have.

But at the DamageNumbers we are at here its kinda trivial.

I think this also answers your ArcticArmor question: Damage is not our problem. I think getting a bit of an %increase from indigon is kinda adding 'more overkill' to the already 'to much overkill'. I think the mana is better spent on the defensive - especially physical mitigation which we do otherwise not have.

delve 300
uber elder down
chayula down

insane character

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biggydoom4 wrote:

delve 300
uber elder down
chayula down

insane character

Thanks for letting us know! \o/ And congrats! :)

It always makes me so happy hearing others enjoy this haha. :D

I am a bit confused, where do these dmg numbers come from?
In the videos you got like 100 mana free to use for frenzy shooting, and indigon does not give dmg with so low mana numbers.

Please enlighten me i really want to know how these numbers come up.

Thanks

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nel0angel0 wrote:

I am a bit confused, where do these dmg numbers come from?
In the videos you got like 100 mana free to use for frenzy shooting, and indigon does not give dmg with so low mana numbers.

Please enlighten me i really want to know how these numbers come up.

Thanks

For one - it isn't Indigon. We are in the Millions of DPS here on this Build without Indigon.

Indigon 'only' adds 400% increased SpellDamage to this build (talking about my own character - link in OP). https://alt0172.github.io/poe-indigon-calc/#120;0.26;0;51;60;35;72;0;1066;117;40;40;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;20 here is the calcuation for it. Nothing Impressive on its own per se.

It gets crazy due to a 395% *more* multiplier on Arc.

Then after that there is another 2.8 effective *More* DPS mutliplier from Penetration, Malediction, Elemental Weakness... etc.

This all is scaled with an 551% Crit *multiplier*.

So yeah. A lot of interlocking mechanics that scale of each other. Not a single one of them is responsible for the bulk of the damage of this build - but together this just goes crazy.

TL;DR: This build is just very well crafted. That's it. No magic sauce or secret mechanic applies here.

Can you please clarify what you use as gems against uber elder and/or shaper?

In the videos it looks like you are running lightning warp but lightning warp isn't in your 2nd slot of weps where you are running the ball lightning/arc set on the 2 poet's pens.

Where do you slot in the movement skill?

I assume for mapping you want to use the Arc Poets Pen + the Lightning warp Poets pen then swap to Arc PP + Ball Lightning PP, correct?

Appreciate the help!