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EnrageDlol wrote:
Hmm, you may have just made me 70c then LOL


I just defaulted to my old PP VD build where frenzy was a major source of damage.

i just felt the 21/20 frenzy was standard for some reason.


I was wondering why Dex was such a struggle... I must have glanced over a lot more than I thought.

Again, thanks a lot for being so active in your thread.

It's very appreciated. It's like having an expert on hand. Keep doing you.


Thank you!

Also take a look at the talent tree posted - the sovereignity cluster for example is part of our tree, among other things. I was a tad confused why you would go down to the lifenode for aura efficiency. ^^'

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Arxxer wrote:
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Arxxer wrote:


I understand and I definitly agree, however my question was more towards the assumption of currency not been a problem (in my case, i got a lvl 4 enlighten myself so that's not an issue)

Thanks for the answer tho, appreciate your time to answer


I would encourage you to play with just the Vertex. Your currency will be well spent on other items - especially a watchers eye with a wrath penetraion mod + ES on hit or something like it.

The Indigion requires to re-link skills and re-colourings of sockets etc. The whole Item is basically its own game-mechanic. It has become apparent to me though that to make it transparent for people who are not really into the game mechanics-wise is really, really hard.

I think its best to advise people to play with the Vertex - those that understand the Indigon will also understand the changes that exist between the two versions of the build and can answer all questions regarding it themself. Or incorporate their own changes/tweeks i.e. a fevered mind jewel etc.

I tried multiple times to explain to people what they ought to gear for or need for the indigon in this thread and PMs and it often felt like banging my head against a wall.

If you still want to play the Indigon variant I would encourage you to trust me that I knew what I was doing when I put those PoBs together and copy them exactly.

I am sorry that I am not capable of explaining the changes I made for this Item again and again in a good way.


That's understandable, I know you have been going through a lot on this thread and you have answered a loto f people.

However, I like to think of myself that I understand quite well game mechanics, it's just that I never played an indigon build before, so that's what I'm missing. I still think I can play around it and would love to try it.

I still have some currency to spend so currency wise I can play along it.

I will definitly follow your PoB and test those things out, however I really like the theory in this game and therefore I'd love to understand everything I do.

But, as i said before, I understand you have been going through this a lot of times and you don't really wanna do it again. I'll try to read your comments back in the post, but any extra help would be super appreciated (but nowhere near required)

Thanks again for the answer!


Ok, now I'm back after reading all your explanation about indigon over your comments, and I think I get everything now.

I'll use Vertex while I get my shav linked and colored before switching to indigon. Thanks for pointing out explanation in past comments.

Also a quick question

Would a watcher eye with a lightning damage mana leech with wrath (given it also has the ES mod) help with indigon low total mana cases? It's not even expensive at all and it seems likei t would give us a ton of mana leech
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Arxxer wrote:


Thanks again for the answer!

Ok, now I'm back after reading all your explanation about indigon over your comments, and I think I get everything now.

I'll use Vertex while I get my shav linked and colored before switching to indigon. Thanks for pointing out explanation in past comments.

Also a quick question

Would a watcher eye with a lightning damage mana leech with wrath (given it also has the ES mod) help with indigon low total mana cases? It's not even expensive at all and it seems likei t would give us a ton of mana leech


Nah. Leech is capped at 20% of your maximum Mana and otherwise dependent on how hard we hit. We hit hard enough to get to the leechcap with one hit. Warlords Mark is all we need - the Watchers Eye mod wouldn't add anything for us.

The Clarity mod of faster mana recovery would do something for us - but overall a WrathPenetration mod still outperforms it offensivly.

Defensivly a Clarity %Mana as ES mod would be best if you go for the indigion since we pump our total mana up quite a bit in that version of the build - the offensive variation with Wrath is probs still best though.

IF you can get all 3 - Clarity Mana to ES, Wrath Pen and ES on Hit you are all set for playing the indigon. A watchers eye like that might cost you 200EX or more though.
Last edited by Cyrix1337#4098 on Sep 12, 2018, 3:40:44 PM
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Arxxer wrote:


Thanks again for the answer!

Ok, now I'm back after reading all your explanation about indigon over your comments, and I think I get everything now.

I'll use Vertex while I get my shav linked and colored before switching to indigon. Thanks for pointing out explanation in past comments.

Also a quick question

Would a watcher eye with a lightning damage mana leech with wrath (given it also has the ES mod) help with indigon low total mana cases? It's not even expensive at all and it seems likei t would give us a ton of mana leech


Nah. Leech is capped at 20% of your maximum Mana and otherwise dependent on how hard we hit. We hit hard enough to get to the leechcap with one hit. Warlords Mark is all we need - the Watchers Eye mod wouldn't add anything for us.

The Clarity mod of faster mana recovery would do something for us - but overall a WrathPenetration mod still outperforms it offensivly.

Defensivly a Clarity %Mana as ES mod would be best if you go for the indigion since we pump our total mana up quite a bit in that version of the build - the offensive variation with Wrath is probs still best though.

IF you can get all 3 - Clarity Mana to ES, Wrath Pen and ES on Hit you are all set for playing the indigon. A watchers eye like that might cost you 200EX or more though.


Gotcha, understood.

I'll play along with vortex and see how long I can push it, If i get the 6 off colour shav and the other mana things needed (second lvl 4 enlighten, maybe a mana reservation enchant on an indigon) will switch to it later on to say how it plays, but for now I'll stick with Vortex.

Thanks again for all your answers and your patient
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Jamy wrote:
Just made the switch from Ele Inpulsa to this and I am loving it!

I’ve got most of my big ticket items and I’ve got about 15ex to burn, what order should my endgame upgrade priority be?

Feeling abit squishy if anything at 6.8k ES.

Any suggestion on best end game upgrades


Uhm, you kinda forgot to specc into unnatural calm ^^ :P That would help.
Vile Ward if you still feel squishy - in general I think you should aim for about ~7k ES without the spider gear and without Vile Ward before switching into Forbidden power. With the SpiderStuff you could transition over with less ES since its good sustain - but then again the spiderboots also have a lot less ES on them then SinTreks.

You seem to still run the Abyss Jewels from the Elementalist Version. Both Life and Mana dont really do much for this build. Try to get some with at least a t2 ES roll on them. t1 rolls would obviously be best but they are pricy (for good reason)

Otherwise it looks pretty good. Keep in mind that ES on Gear directly translates to our tankyness. Its the important stat to look out for on the vertex, sin treks etc.

You also have one point in the curse cluster near CI - which is wasted.

I think those should be the most glaring things!

Happy delving Exile! :)


Thanks alot for all the help there! Really appreciated!

Had to fork out on moving res round and a new curse ring for stats, those changes have made a massive difference!

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Arxxer wrote:
Gotcha, understood.

I'll play along with vortex and see how long I can push it, If i get the 6 off colour shav and the other mana things needed (second lvl 4 enlighten, maybe a mana reservation enchant on an indigon) will switch to it later on to say how it plays, but for now I'll stick with Vortex.

Thanks again for all your answers and your patient

You can push Vertex through all the content, even uber elder. Indigon will take damage to another level but isn't needed to do any of the content with this build. The mana management with Indigon can get tricky though. Without a lot of mana regen you have to play with the mana you're spending, how often you cast once you reach the end of your mana and manage mana flasks if you want to use the Indigon effectively.
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YT_HB wrote:
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Arxxer wrote:
Gotcha, understood.

I'll play along with vortex and see how long I can push it, If i get the 6 off colour shav and the other mana things needed (second lvl 4 enlighten, maybe a mana reservation enchant on an indigon) will switch to it later on to say how it plays, but for now I'll stick with Vortex.

Thanks again for all your answers and your patient

You can push Vertex through all the content, even uber elder. Indigon will take damage to another level but isn't needed to do any of the content with this build. The mana management with Indigon can get tricky though. Without a lot of mana regen you have to play with the mana you're spending, how often you cast once you reach the end of your mana and manage mana flasks if you want to use the Indigon effectively.


Someone has been playing a ManaPhant. :P :D
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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YT_HB wrote:
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Arxxer wrote:
Gotcha, understood.

I'll play along with vortex and see how long I can push it, If i get the 6 off colour shav and the other mana things needed (second lvl 4 enlighten, maybe a mana reservation enchant on an indigon) will switch to it later on to say how it plays, but for now I'll stick with Vortex.

Thanks again for all your answers and your patient

You can push Vertex through all the content, even uber elder. Indigon will take damage to another level but isn't needed to do any of the content with this build. The mana management with Indigon can get tricky though. Without a lot of mana regen you have to play with the mana you're spending, how often you cast once you reach the end of your mana and manage mana flasks if you want to use the Indigon effectively.


Someone has been playing a ManaPhant. :P :D

Ssshhhhh...keep that on the down low.
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Cyrix1337 wrote:

iirc both 114 Strength and Dexterity are all thats needed for the Build to work


sintrek requires 117, but yeah, i filled out some jewels, dont even need to take the dex or str node and I just got myself a new choir and I'm now officially completely broke. Good thing is the build is feeling fairly flushed out now.

updated PoB with new jewels and choir: https://pastebin.com/GF20mDa8
Why Ice Golem over Lightning Golem? PoB Shows lightning golem adds more DPS to the build.
Last edited by Mephotis#6636 on Sep 12, 2018, 9:27:49 PM

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