Hey guys, I have played this build this league extensively. I have uber elder on farm, delved to 600, and killed kurgul/aul in 600 delves and almost 40/40 challenges complete. I also have a casual 10400 es with shavs or 12000 with regalia. Here are my thoughts as a boss killer and as someone more interested in survivability.
1. The set up I am running is arc/ball lightning with flame dash+faster casting as movement skill for bossing. I find weapon swapping way too slow for the hardest boss fights. I still do use arcwarp for easy red map speed farming.
2. Indigon is a trap for the hardest boss fights. It provides way too little es and you need to take mana nodes on the tree, which further deprives you of es. The helm I am using is :
crafted with dense+metallic fossil. Unfortunately I did not hit -9%% nearby lit res, although there is a helm up for mirror service with the mod and 430 es. I use a energy within instead of healthy mind in the jewel slot above witch, to convert life to 40% additional es. The helm gives you 1k more es than indigon, and the tree a further 40%. On the hardest boss fights, which is the only place indigon damage makes a difference, losing 1600 es is simply not an option.
3. The belt I am using is
crafted with just dense fossil spam, and cdr veiled mod craft. This belt provides ~300 more es than a stygian, and the energy shield recovery rate boosts my leach and vile bastion by 20%. This means in maps or delves with 10k es, I will have 2400 es/sec leech and 3600 es/sec vile bastion, for a total of 6k es/sec, in addition to the es on hit from watchers eye. Comparatively, in the average 7k es build, you will have 3500 es/sec from leech and vile combined. This is a huge boost to survivability. The belt also have 12% cdr, which combined with 22+ quality in my frenzy links, allow me to hit 4.27 attack speed breakpoint for poets pen. This is a ~11% more dps gain compared to the 3.85 breakpoint.
3. I am using crafted rare boots
just for additional es/resists. You can easily craft similar boots by alt regaling t1 flat es, then multimodding, you can get 20-24% move speed, 40 res, and up to 74% es thanks to the new crafted affixes. These boots are ~500 more es than fenumus boots.
4. auras I am using are purity of elements/disc on blood magic, and wrath/blasphemy ele weakness / spider aura or herald of thunder, with spider better in long boss fights, and herald better on trash/delve. Note that a lvl 12 coh ele weakness is 31% res, while a 20/20 ele weakness with 10% curse effect from quality blasphemy is 49.5 res, a huge difference. Also I dont use conductivity because both 20/20 ele weakness and 20/0 conductivity gives the same res, because quality increases ele weakness -res while quality does nothing important for conductivity. I also use call of brotherhood in delves so the -cold res is useful. No arctic armor since I am not using lightning warp. In delves I also sometimes swap over to enfeeble on hit gloves and take the additional curse in the tree, since enfeeble + stibnite flask is a very effective defensive combo vs non bosses. My ideal gloves would be double corrupted with spell crit and enfeeble on hit, but I have only seen 3 corruption chambers this entire league and nothing came from them. I don't think anyone else is using corruption chamber on voidbringers so it is also impossible to buy.
5. An example of a boss fight where my min max is needed is https://imgur.com/a/3TksFmi
This is a 601 depth aul with curse reduction, 40% ele resist, and crit dmg reduction. Despite it having 0 damage mods, the boss does ~5k melee/charge hits, and 10k+ icicle bolts. The 60% curse reduction stacks with the 80% boss curse reduction, making our warlord leech and ele weakness completely useless. I dropped ele weakness for both HoT and spider aura for the little damage they provide.
I was finally able to make progress on the fight by swapping in
to hit 12k es and using purity of ice for 80% max res, so I can take a hit and not get one shot. The fight also took 10 minutes and plenty of dodging/kiting, since I still die from 2 hits. In comparison, I push Uber elder phases in 2 seconds. I am also using dream fragment for chill/freeze immunity, since you run out of flasks in a 10 min fight.
Anyway that is my thoughts on the build. This is an amazing league for crafting, between delve fossils and new crafted mods, crafted rares have become extremely strong. I might delve further, but since delving requires buying sulphite scarabs one at a time in trade, that might take a while.
Dude. Thank you for all of this.
Currently running fen boots, vertex variant with 7k es and learning uber has been rough. Going to check your version and play around with some stuff. Got 17ex and plenty of items listed for sale, so hopefully I'll have enough to make the necessary adjustments.
Prylos // RoA Marauder 89+
My godly belt collection - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/334226
Mapping Discussion - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/361880/page/1
I'm a bit lost as to what I need to buy next to improve. Not sure if I should go for more level 21 gems, or better jewels? Could use a better ring for more ES.. Quite a few options.(Maybe Suffixes can't be changed mastecraft my ring? Not sure if its worth it as its expensive and the only good roll i could exalt is the Energy shield. That said my suffixes are great and more energy shield would be huge. Hum. Maybe just sell it/buy a better one?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Sitting on 7.1k ES atm so don't think I should swap to forbidden power.
At the moment I'm thinking next on my agenda is a 15% pen wise oak and then two poets pens, I have a white socket so I can swap to a ball lightning setup in my second pen but its clunky.
Not sure how to link gems soz.
Last edited by Daemaniac#0033 on Dec 29, 2018, 6:28:12 AM
I went the same way as you did during Delve league, and it was a realy quality of life to run this build this way.
You should maybe lower your chest ES and get a shaper one with bonus crit and Arcane surge, it's a massive boost :
(also if you push delve, i would strongly recommend frost wall)
Edit : since you have so much ES, you can also try to drop Ghost Reaver, without vaal pack it provide almost no regen with your current 12K ES.
On the contrary the 50% less energy shield recharge is nerfing the "Wicked Ward" quite a lot and since you play in Delve, you might want to use the Darkness trick to proc "Soul of Arakaali" Pantheon Regen. By doing you will see a significant increase in your shield regen.
Last edited by Meothaku#4701 on Dec 29, 2018, 7:21:21 AM
I'm a bit lost as to what I need to buy next to improve. Not sure if I should go for more level 21 gems, or better jewels? Could use a better ring for more ES.. Quite a few options.(Maybe Suffixes can't be changed mastecraft my ring? Not sure if its worth it as its expensive and the only good roll i could exalt is the Energy shield. That said my suffixes are great and more energy shield would be huge. Hum. Maybe just sell it/buy a better one?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Sitting on 7.1k ES atm so don't think I should swap to forbidden power.
At the moment I'm thinking next on my agenda is a 15% pen wise oak and then two poets pens, I have a white socket so I can swap to a ball lightning setup in my second pen but its clunky.
Not sure how to link gems soz.
Hey!
Looks good! I love that you apparently thought about things yourself with the Shavs and its links. It is stated in the OP that you do not need a 6link shavs to play with a Vertex (and the gem links make it obvious too) but people are weird.
Seeing someone think for themself is really neat and refreshing. Those are the posts/people I rather enjoy helping.
I think the biggest gain would be a second set of Poet's Pens to swap to for single target damage. You would want those anyhow regardless of what other things you might want to change later on.
Jewels are a solid investment for the very same reason.
This is my third league but POE is still pretty confusing idk what I'm doing half the time tbh.
I've looked at quite a few posters characters for things like links,
I think you you posted a pastbin link with a vertex setup similar to what I'm doing now.
I'll get those P Pens thanks :)
I went the same way as you did during Delve league, and it was a realy quality of life to run this build this way.
You should maybe lower your chest ES and get a shaper one with bonus crit and Arcane surge, it's a massive boost :
(also if you push delve, i would strongly recommend frost wall)
Edit : since you have so much ES, you can also try to drop Ghost Reaver, without vaal pack it provide almost no regen with your current 12K ES.
On the contrary the 50% less energy shield recharge is nerfing the "Wicked Ward" quite a lot and since you play in Delve, you might want to use the Darkness trick to proc "Soul of Arakaali" Pantheon Regen. By doing you will see a significant increase in your shield regen.
Hey Meothaku, your post in delve definitely inspired me for my adjustments. I also chatted with you ingame :)
The 800 es chest was just the cheapest one I could find for the Aul fight, I will be on the lookout for spell crit one, but those are significantly more expensive. I have arcane surge linked to my flame dash currently.
edit: snagged this for now:
Was using Solaris just for Aul for the 8% ele reduction. I do use Arakaali for generic delving. Ghost reaver with my belt and Arakaali comes out to 12k*0.2*1.7 = 4k es/sec, together with vile bastion's 6k regen, I would get 10k es/sec in generic delves and I think that is good enough. Incidentally I did drop GR for essence surge on the Aul kill since it had double curse reduction.
Last edited by Stealthyy#2418 on Dec 29, 2018, 10:31:42 AM
Hi, I just got back into PoE again this league and found this post. I saved up a bit of currency and want to try this build out. I bought all the required pieces and after reading some of the posts here (going a bigger ES pool with Vile Bastion), I was wondering why do we still need presence of chayula? Wouldn't going for another dps/defensive option would be better?
Hi, I just got back into PoE again this league and found this post. I saved up a bit of currency and want to try this build out. I bought all the required pieces and after reading some of the posts here (going a bigger ES pool with Vile Bastion), I was wondering why do we still need presence of chayula? Wouldn't going for another dps/defensive option would be better?
Hi sorry if this is a bit blunt but you should read the guide a bit more, the info you're asking for is in there. Lots more good info in there/recent forum posts if you take the time to look.
Later on when you're geared enough you swap out of Vile Bastion for more damage for mapping/most content so the stun immunity is not being wasted. On top of that the amulet is just straight up very strong for us.
An alternative cheaper/dps amulet option is given in the guide if you want to use that.
I have read the guide and the reason I am asking this question IS mainly due the recent forum posts that shared their gear. The poster above me with end game gear is still rocking the Presence even though he did not spec out of Vile Bastion, which is the reason I am asking this question.
