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About your question, i feel like blade flurry would be the best for delve, highest damage potential and extra phys dmg protection from infused channeling
If we are speaking damage wise - no doubts BF will be great, but i have some concerns about small AoE radius (therefore not so great QoL), and requirements to stand still due channeling (and deep delve teaches you: you are alive as long as you moving). Btw how long it takes to get fully charged BF? I never used to play as BF before...
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Posted byXKenton Jun 6, 2019, 3:25:01 PM
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About your question, i feel like blade flurry would be the best for delve, highest damage potential and extra phys dmg protection from infused channeling
If we are speaking damage wise - no doubts BF will be great, but i have some concerns about small AoE radius (therefore not so great QoL), and requirements to stand still due channeling (and deep delve teaches you: you are alive as long as you moving). Btw how long it takes to get fully charged BF? I never used to play as BF before...
Aoe should be fine, it got buffed nicely. I played with it before, can recommend for sure
Also infused channeling will increase physical damage reduction with blade flurry
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Posted bygrizzly40on Jun 6, 2019, 4:34:08 PM
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Wanted some feedback on an idea, got to almost 1100 delve last league with a MS nebuloch jugg, was hoping to switch over to MS CI howa this league to climb even higher, but with the nerfs, like most MS players, I'm scrambling to find a replacement. I've looked at a few options, Blade Flurry seeming to be the best idea to replace MS so far, but I was just looking at Viper Strike. VS has some nice buffs and was just wondering, as I've never played it or a howa CI build before, if that would even be viable? Watched some videos and clear speed seems good, but how is single target?
EDIT: actually, at a second glance the effective damage seems to have been bumped down on it, but it had some added chaos damage and attack speed/quality.
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Posted byEuloGon Jun 6, 2019, 5:04:21 PM
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Wanted some feedback on an idea, got to almost 1100 delve last league with a MS nebuloch jugg, was hoping to switch over to MS CI howa this league to climb even higher, but with the nerfs, like most MS players, I'm scrambling to find a replacement. I've looked at a few options, Blade Flurry seeming to be the best idea to replace MS so far, but I was just looking at Viper Strike. VS has some nice buffs and was just wondering, as I've never played it or a howa CI build before, if that would even be viable? Watched some videos and clear speed seems good, but how is single target?
EDIT: actually, at a second glance the effective damage seems to have been bumped down on it, but it had some added chaos damage and attack speed/quality.
Single target of my build is very good, 3-3.5m shaper dps with blade flurry after nerfs (with end game gear, with different skills around 2-2.5m). I don't think that viper strike will be good tho, damage might be lackluster and we don't scale poison
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Posted bygrizzly40on Jun 6, 2019, 5:19:11 PM
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About your question, i feel like blade flurry would be the best for delve, highest damage potential and extra phys dmg protection from infused channeling
If we are speaking damage wise - no doubts BF will be great, but i have some concerns about small AoE radius (therefore not so great QoL), and requirements to stand still due channeling (and deep delve teaches you: you are alive as long as you moving). Btw how long it takes to get fully charged BF? I never used to play as BF before...
Aoe should be fine, it got buffed nicely. I played with it before, can recommend for sure
Also infused channeling will increase physical damage reduction with blade flurry
Have you seen the Pulversize gem? With BF it might do insanely good clearing ability.
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Posted byNike_DnTon Jun 6, 2019, 5:19:27 PM
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Have you seen the Pulversize gem? With BF it might do insanely good clearing ability.
Yeah it's really nice, its like increased aoe gem but with huge damage multiplier
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Posted bygrizzly40on Jun 6, 2019, 5:32:07 PM
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Wanted some feedback on an idea, got to almost 1100 delve last league with a MS nebuloch jugg, was hoping to switch over to MS CI howa this league to climb even higher, but with the nerfs, like most MS players, I'm scrambling to find a replacement. I've looked at a few options, Blade Flurry seeming to be the best idea to replace MS so far, but I was just looking at Viper Strike. VS has some nice buffs and was just wondering, as I've never played it or a howa CI build before, if that would even be viable? Watched some videos and clear speed seems good, but how is single target?
EDIT: actually, at a second glance the effective damage seems to have been bumped down on it, but it had some added chaos damage and attack speed/quality.
Single target of my build is very good, 3-3.5m shaper dps with blade flurry after nerfs (with end game gear, with different skills around 2-2.5m). I don't think that viper strike will be good tho, damage might be lackluster and we don't scale poison
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Which supports are you thinking of using for BF? Will you be pairing pulverize with conc effect?
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Posted bymintuon Jun 6, 2019, 5:40:44 PM
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Wanted some feedback on an idea, got to almost 1100 delve last league with a MS nebuloch jugg, was hoping to switch over to MS CI howa this league to climb even higher, but with the nerfs, like most MS players, I'm scrambling to find a replacement. I've looked at a few options, Blade Flurry seeming to be the best idea to replace MS so far, but I was just looking at Viper Strike. VS has some nice buffs and was just wondering, as I've never played it or a howa CI build before, if that would even be viable? Watched some videos and clear speed seems good, but how is single target?
EDIT: actually, at a second glance the effective damage seems to have been bumped down on it, but it had some added chaos damage and attack speed/quality.
Single target of my build is very good, 3-3.5m shaper dps with blade flurry after nerfs (with end game gear, with different skills around 2-2.5m). I don't think that viper strike will be good tho, damage might be lackluster and we don't scale poison
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Which supports are you thinking of using for BF? Will you be pairing pulverize with conc effect?
I was thinking about removing conq effect completely and adding pulverize, that would be 10-15% less damage, but aoe would be insane and again, almost 4m shaper dps, even 2m would be more than enough
This is what i came up with so far
https://pastebin.com/sywkUUPP
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Posted bygrizzly40on Jun 6, 2019, 5:53:48 PM
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Few questions:
1) as i can see in your PoB you are using Elemental Focus, but in this way we cant afflict the shocked status, which affect our DPS alot. I guess there must be some better options (for example above-mentioned pulverize)...
2) what about amulet you are using in PoB, i mean Eyes of the Greatwolf Talisman - it looks like it would be insanely expensive...
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Posted byXKenton Jun 6, 2019, 6:16:48 PM
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Few questions:
1) as i can see in your PoB you are using Elemental Focus, but in this way we cant afflict the shocked status, which affect our DPS alot. I guess there must be some better options (for example above-mentioned pulverize)...
2) what about amulet you are using in PoB, i mean Eyes of the Greatwolf Talisman - it looks like it would be insanely expensive...
1. Shock is useless unless you do very specific build, dont even think about it
2. Suprisingly astramentis is not much worse compared to that amulet, and there are even better amulets (%all stats + %dmg per intelligence)
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Posted bygrizzly40on Jun 6, 2019, 6:28:12 PM
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