[3.6] Immune HOWA Jugg | CI 15k+ es | Insane dps | Indestructible | Uber Elder video up

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XKent wrote:
But armor stacking have diminishing results due to armor mechanic, so in real you will never achive those 52% phys damage reduction against big hits that PoB shows, isn't it? And ofc you can always reroll abovementioned shaper regalia to have %6 increased attributes instead of additional curse, therefore it give us +18%increased intelligence compared to Incandescent Heart.


I think you're missing the synergy incandescent heart has with ci. We are negating 25% of elemental damage since it's converted to chaos damage thusly making us immune to 25% of ele damage. As HOWA players we don't care about the armor on the chest.
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ThorTheGray wrote:

I think you're missing the synergy incandescent heart has with ci. We are negating 25% of elemental damage since it's converted to chaos damage thusly making us immune to 25% of ele damage. As HOWA players we don't care about the armor on the chest.

Hm, good point, but elemental damage was never a problem, assuming you have enough ES (15+k looks like enough from my experience), in same time phys damage always was... Ofc i can be wrong, because i was running previous league as HoWA Occ with 4 curses, not as Jug.
So we are loosing a tons of ES and Intelligence just to cut 25% of ele damage?
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ScottEvill wrote:
Hi guys.
Sorry for the dumb question.
Weapon -> ancestral protector, frenzy, wave of conviction stup.Is anyone rly use it? Do we manualy cast wave and frenzy? Does it helps alot?
grizzly40
I took your last PoB link, and added crafted Rare Vaal Regalia to compare with Incandescent Heart, below are results that i got:
Spoiler


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XKent wrote:
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ThorTheGray wrote:

I think you're missing the synergy incandescent heart has with ci. We are negating 25% of elemental damage since it's converted to chaos damage thusly making us immune to 25% of ele damage. As HOWA players we don't care about the armor on the chest.

Hm, good point, but elemental damage was never a problem, assuming you have enough ES (15+k looks like enough from my experience), in same time phys damage always was... Ofc i can be wrong, because i was running previous league as HoWA Occ with 4 curses, not as Jug.
So we are loosing a tons of ES and Intelligence just to cut 25% of ele damage?


Trust us. You'll be hard pressed to find a HOWA Jugg not using an incandescent heart in any league until something better comes along. That 25% is a huge defensive boost.
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ScottEvill wrote:
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ScottEvill wrote:
Hi guys.
Sorry for the dumb question.
Weapon -> ancestral protector, frenzy, wave of conviction stup.Is anyone rly use it? Do we manualy cast wave and frenzy? Does it helps alot?


Frenzy and WoC are mainly used for bosses.
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ThorTheGray wrote:

Trust us. You'll be hard pressed to find a HOWA Jugg not using an incandescent heart in any league until something better comes along. That 25% is a huge defensive boost.

OK, ty, i got you... Can you also recommend smth to feel comfortable deep delving as main damage skill (i will skip the bosses)?
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XKent wrote:
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ThorTheGray wrote:

Trust us. You'll be hard pressed to find a HOWA Jugg not using an incandescent heart in any league until something better comes along. That 25% is a huge defensive boost.

OK, ty, i got you... Can you also recommend smth to feel comfortable deep delving as main damage skill (i will skip the bosses)?

25% is a ridiculous boost to survivability, with 16k es it translates to over 5k more effective es against elemental damage. It provides leech (so you don't have to worry about it), almost the same amount of damage as good regalia and 8k armour (which is always about 10-15% reduction against smaller hits, 3-5% against super big ones). It's really hard to beat this chest

About your question, i feel like blade flurry would be the best for delve, highest damage potential and extra phys dmg protection from infused channeling
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grizzly40 wrote:
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XKent wrote:
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ThorTheGray wrote:

Trust us. You'll be hard pressed to find a HOWA Jugg not using an incandescent heart in any league until something better comes along. That 25% is a huge defensive boost.

OK, ty, i got you... Can you also recommend smth to feel comfortable deep delving as main damage skill (i will skip the bosses)?

25% is a ridiculous boost to survivability, with 16k es it translates to over 5k more effective es against elemental damage. It provides leech (so you don't have to worry about it), almost the same amount of damage as good regalia and 8k armour (which is always about 10-15% reduction against smaller hits, 3-5% against super big ones). It's really hard to beat this chest

About your question, i feel like blade flurry would be the best for delve, highest damage potential and extra phys dmg protection from infused channeling


I looked at using a legacy regalia instead of Incandescent Heart - this would be a 990ES regalia with 25 int and 6% attributes. It's a tough call, and I am still mulling it. Given the most dangerous things in the game right now are elemental hits, I am leaning toward staying with Incandescent Heart.

I would
- Gain 26% more ES (would be 30%, but i need to pick up leech for 2 points and 3% more dps to make up for the lost chest DPS for 1 more point).
- Lose 7k armor

So:
- Elemental hits: net loss. 25% taken as chaos is the same as a 33% increase in EHP. 26% more ES does not make up for this.
- Physical hits: gain on big hits, lose on small hits. With IC no longer being always up, I am now more concerned about many smaller hits in delve. 1-shots are usually heavily elemental.
- Elemental degen: gain significantly - the chest does nothing for degen. Cold degen does hurt in delve.
- Physical degen: gain significantly.

The regalia for reference - I'd scour the suffixes and multimod int/qual and %attributes to do this:

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