[3.6] Immune HOWA Jugg | CI 15k+ es | Insane dps | Indestructible | Uber Elder video up

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notwow wrote:
Honestly though, how bad do you think MS will be? I don't think it will be that bad since we can facetank everything anyway, getting in melee range wont be that bad, and with conc effect + melee splash wont that be just fine for single target?


MS is going to be bad and tedious to play now. I am fairly certain that no other melee skills requires you to hit a target for the skill to do its thing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Not worried about ES at all, I'm sitting over 20k for ES even after the tree nerf thanks to the new clusters, but DPS is what im worried about. Lightning strike feels so meh. If we hit the target to make the projectiles it seems like it would be better for the overlap in the end no?
With the actual ES changes, my endgame HOWA is nearly 14000 ES but(could go much higher with new Int node cluster),...BUT, my damage with MoltenStrike has decreased a 30-40%. This is bad DPS wise for single targets, AND most importantly, clearspeed and fun with this skill are gone.I wasn´t enjoying MS tremendously anyway (in fact I got a little tired of it) This build was expensive but you could have the best of both worlds, now, is it worth to spend so much currency to get a Melee character that could be much cheaper in Berserker or Slayer?Wait and see.
Last edited by ArisFuser on Jun 6, 2019, 2:05:40 AM
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notwow wrote:
Not worried about ES at all, I'm sitting over 20k for ES even after the tree nerf thanks to the new clusters, but DPS is what im worried about. Lightning strike feels so meh. If we hit the target to make the projectiles it seems like it would be better for the overlap in the end no?

The build would still be fine with ms, the point is there is no sense (imo) to play with this attack for another league after such harsh nerfs :P. Playing with a different ability would be refreshing and dps definitely wouldn't be lackluster
Last edited by grizzly40 on Jun 6, 2019, 5:53:54 AM
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ArisFuser wrote:
With the actual ES changes, my endgame HOWA is nearly 14000 ES but(could go much higher with new Int node cluster),...BUT, my damage with MoltenStrike has decreased a 30-40%. This is bad DPS wise for single targets, AND most importantly, clearspeed and fun with this skill are gone.I wasn´t enjoying MS tremendously anyway (in fact I got a little tired of it) This build was expensive but you could have the best of both worlds, now, is it worth to spend so much currency to get a Melee character that could be much cheaper in Berserker or Slayer?Wait and see.


Reave is looking excellent - though I am still playing with the tree to figure out how to support the mana cost.

So far going from 15.1k ES and 900k per ball dps with MS to 17.2k ES and 1.74mil reave dps (before the buffs to Reave and supports). Completely viable, and room to trade ES for dps. My main worry is deeper delve survivability without perma IC and without Aarakali. Only one way to find out.

https://pastebin.com/H1Mjt3XH - the work in progress with my gear.
Last edited by mintu on Jun 6, 2019, 6:08:53 AM
Call me crazy but I'll give flicker strike a shot. 2.5 mil dps is nice. Charged dash might be interesting too.
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Hello guys, is there any reason why you are not using Atziri's Reflection?

It gives so much QoL, Evasion, resistances and ES isn't so low compared to rare shield...
Also getting one more curse using chest like this
looks like good DPS booster...
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XKent wrote:
Hello guys, is there any reason why you are not using Atziri's Reflection?

It gives so much QoL, Evasion, resistances and ES isn't so low compared to rare shield...
Also getting one more curse using chest like this
looks like good DPS booster...


You're giving up way too much defense with that ES chest. An ES chest would have to be gg to even be considered. Some do use Atziri's Reflection however it is cost prohibitive to a lot of players. A nicely rolled rare shield is still one of the best options.
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XKent wrote:
Hello guys, is there any reason why you are not using Atziri's Reflection?

It gives so much QoL, Evasion, resistances and ES isn't so low compared to rare shield...
Also getting one more curse using chest like this
looks like good DPS booster...

Incandescent heart is BiS by far i'm afraid (especially after dense fossil nerf), atziri's reflection is good but with rare shield you'll get much more es (curse immunity is just quality of life, you can get it on flask)
But armor stacking have diminishing results due to armor mechanic, so in real you will never achive those 52% phys damage reduction against big hits that PoB shows, isn't it? And ofc you can always reroll abovementioned shaper regalia to have %6 increased attributes instead of additional curse, therefore it give us +18%increased intelligence compared to Incandescent Heart.

Btw i am looking for smth reliable and comfortable for deep delving (1500+), like Occ/Jug Molten HoWA was in previous league. Boss killing isn't my main task. Do you think BF will be ok, or Lightning strike will just fit better for my tasks?
Ty in advance!
Last edited by XKent on Jun 6, 2019, 9:48:34 AM

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