Changes to Ignite in 3.3.0

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zanzibar9 wrote:

Yeay just when i thought im back into the game and planning to spend on mtx and this happened. THANKS GGG, for reminding me about how clueless you are on your own game. Thanks for reminding me NOT to spend anything on this game. Thanks for reminding me why i took the break in the first place. It seems the only mantra that you know on balancing your own game is NERF this one to the ground and go buff that one so it's freaking OP. F#$K this, i hope WOLCEN is better so i can truly say goodbye to your S#%T.

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i already got on early acces in the game for only 19$ ... i cant w8 to play it ... i got mi 36 chalenges in the league and nothing to keep me to play poe right now ... i was hoping the new race will change that but this game looks fantastic and i givit a try right now... ty mate.

So, no more RF+EE activated via Orb Of Storms?

Don't forget to nerf Dyadus as well.

The problem with ignite is how it works.

Shock an enemy and EVERYTHING and EVERYONE does more damage to the enemy

FREEZE an enemy and it can't do shit and even shatters if killed while frozen, ignoring every on death effect incl. changing the enemy to a second phase.

Ignite... do a little burn damage that can be utilized with some little gems or equip...

THIS is where the problem is. If you want to make ignites viable you should change the core of what it does. If I have to option to have a source for more damage / making the enemy frozen OR giving it a small dot... I choose one of the first.

Why not making ignite damage automatically proliferating.
Fire does spread naturally. Igniting one enemy in the middle of a pack would set the rest on fire too. Maybe not instantly but with a small delay "heat up".

Maybe add "crits" to ignites, if you critically ignite an enemy it creates an explosion, instantly igniting all enemies in a radius which can be critical too.

This is just an example but that would make more sense than just a bit dot. As long as it is just a dot and does not have any real effect like shock and freeze, people will almost always rather use those than ignite.

Explosive arrow? hello?...

I hate the rational that EE needs changed because it “feels mandatory” on burn builds. There are already keystones that feel mandatory for whole build archetypes.

Playing elemental anything and not going for crit? EO. No matter what. Spell, attack, hit, dot, go EO. If your tree doesnt reach scratch it and make a new tree that does. Does this take more investment than EE? No it takes the same. Orb of storms. Done. Same investment as EE for elemental builds like ignite. Cast one single other elemental skill first and you are good

Playing molten strike? Attack based traps? Take point blank. If you cant get point blank with either your build is suboptimal. Pick a new ascendancy and tree where you can reach it.

Low life caster? Get pain atunement. No questions asked ever. Always take it or your build sucks.

These are just a couple of examples, but we already have mandatory keystones for certain build types. Why should that change for EE and not these keystones? At least EE has a downside for some builds. Some of these other keystones dont (EO and pain atunement)

Ya sure buff ignite and nerf RF and SR or give his stacking ability to other non fire dot skills to bring them in that lvl.

TL;DR?

People dont know how to scale ignite lol

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KlausTV wrote:

TL;DR?

People dont know how to scale ignite lol

Care to elaborate?

If you want to fix Elemental Equilibrium without fucking it up, just make the -50% resistance on enemies into +50% chance to penetrate that element, that way summoners and other party members who don't use EE don't get easy access for permanent +50% total (whatever) damage. FYI my main build is a summoner of sorts. While still retaining the +25% resistance on enemies. Any other way you do it, will just nerf everybody who uses it. If you don't wanna screw up summoners with minion damage too bad, then make sure that minions inherit some of the summoners resistance penetration percentages, this would prolly also make the point of elemental equilibrium being too op for 1 node obsolete, if you have other sources to increase your own and minion elemental penetration at the same time.
So yeah either nerf EE for summoners or buff elemental penetration for everyone who does any sort of summoning of traps/totems/mines/minions.