Poll: Should we add Nets that work on Dead Beasts?

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reaper242324 wrote:

The idiocy is not figuring out you need to throw your net before doing buttons of damage. If you do it right, you can cap things well outside the net's level range

Zombie teleports to you and one shots a mob before net animation is over, what button did i press exactly? If you don't know jackshit about the game or only play very bad builds you really should keep your bad examples to yourself. Again, idiocy at its best, no surprise you would vote No.

I think that people will find a way to complain about anything that isn't designed for mach 1 gameplay.

Using a net on an already killed beast seems... like we're going to completely change design or mechanics to cater to the complainers.

In my opinion, the nets and capturing while alive should stay. Maybe something to consider is changing the health levels or something to allow a slightly larger window of opportunity? I know not all builds work the same as far as being able to control whether you one-shot a beast accidentally or not. Making a change to the process that allows a window a little more forgiving might be a solution?

It feels like my biggest issue seems to be that if I want to capture a beast, unless it's a red skull, high health beast then it's dead too quickly to capture it. The animation of the net throw combined with the very small health pool make it near impossible with some builds to accomplish the task.

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MorBirDinazor wrote:

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MorBirDinazor wrote:

People saying No are also saying: Don't play certain builds if you wanna do the league stuff or ignore league stuff while playing certain builds. Amazing. Not everyone plays such bad builds that do 0 damage or controllable dps (minion builds for example).

Let people play what build they wish to without being afraid of doing "too much damage". If you want to roleplay, dont use the new items. Such idiocy.

The idiocy is not figuring out you need to throw your net before doing buttons of damage. If you do it right, you can cap things well outside the net's level range

"Zombie teleports to you and one shots a mob before net animation is over, what button did i press exactly? If you don't know jackshit about the game or only play very bad builds you really should keep your bad examples to yourself. Again, idiocy at its best, no surprise you would vote No."

Insult my intelligence more, let's hear it. Still looking for an actual argument. If the net is in the air, the monster's health will no longer go down. The grace period is live. But again, if you don't want the challenge of playing a summoner in this league, why are you playing a summoner in this league? This isn't hard to figure out at all.

Shit you said it yourself, minions are uncontrollable damage. So what about that made it sound like a good idea in your head when going into a league where you needed to keep some things alive? Maybe look at your own logic first before railing mine.

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Fifth2301 wrote:

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SpreadEagleBeagle wrote:

Yes, but more rare. As a summoner, it's crazy hard to make this system work just right with mobs of minions going out and blanket killing. It's like doing Vorici missions, but now it's all the time. Surgical kill builds probably don't care, but I'd love a setting for "throw the friggin net automatically if I'm in range and it's a rare or higher monster". Still...no matter what...it is a fun mechanic :)

And that's basically an essence of the problem for - apparently - every summoner.

1. Implement the auto-targeting (already inc?)
2. Make the Bestiary mobs (rare anyway, yellow/red) immune to MINION damage / TOTEM damage UNTIL they have net on them (then they can get instagibbed by the - clearly op - summoners).

this is a goddamn simple solution that does not require ruining the league. Go ahead and spoon-feed the beasts to the summoners, if it's *TOO DIFFICULT* to play the game the way it's designed. Let them auto-target the beasts and make the beasts IMMUNE until they do. Whatever. Let them play Path of Diablo. Thanks to that me, and MANY other people, will be able to keep enjoying this league.

Or you can cave to the pressure, add the Roadkill Net and ruin it. But yeah hey, it's not like you'll be creating a dangerous precedent or something. Go ahead, it's your game, who's going to tell you what to do... oh wait.

I'll just leave this here again.

' "idiocy" is not realizing thats not how summoners work.Absolutely serious. It's not my fault you didn't take the mechanics of the league into consideration when you sat down and said "I'm gonna summon a bunch of shit I can't control and hope they don't kill that rare thing I need". On that note, you could always just go net the thing before your minions swarm it.

spotted the guy that doesnt know what he's talking about /never played a summoner. The minions rape the screen man, get a grip. If the league mechanic doesnt work, with a STAPLE, common build then that league mechanic is broken, and your opinion saying other wise is absolutely absurd.'

Spotted the guy with a hard on for witch. The league isn't broken just because one fucking build can't play it lol. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this wouldn't be the first time a build suddenly became not viable, no?

This poll is BROKEN

Because according to how it seems "Yes" have the mayority of the people as of now, however as you guys add two "Yes" options, they kinda split between them even when players want the nets to exist.

The poll should be broken in two

1) Did you want than exist certain Nets than let you capture dead beast?

2) If yes, do you want them to be more common or more rare?


I'm a necromancer, i have A TON of minions to combat enemys and rely heavy on them to capture enemys, if this net are not added to the game ENTIRE BUILDS WONT BE ABLE TO USE THE CAPTURE MECHANIC.

NOT JUST THE NECROMANCER BUILDS, BUT ANY BUILD OF UNMANNED INSTAKILL GROUPS OF ENEMYS, for instance, anything than use Damage Chaos auras or similar.


Thanks for your attention

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reaper242324 wrote:

Shit you said it yourself, minions are uncontrollable damage. So what about that made it sound like a good idea in your head when going into a league where you needed to keep some things alive? Maybe look at your own logic first before railing mine.

They should patch it and make it so you can only capture with [melee] tagged skills. It is fine in your logic, just gotta think and not play non-melee builds.

I don't have to insult you, you don't need any help at showing how far (not much) you can go with "thinking". I said idiocy due to the fact that people CAN use old nets and roleplay all the want while other ppl get a fix but no. It HAS TO BE your way or the highway because you think you matter more which is to me idiotic.

You directed the word at me so you started the insults my friend, i just replied which i admit was a mistake considering you lack a lot for this to be a meaningful exchange. My bad.

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reaper242324 wrote:

' "idiocy" is not realizing thats not how summoners work.Absolutely serious. It's not my fault you didn't take the mechanics of the league into consideration when you sat down and said "I'm gonna summon a bunch of shit I can't control and hope they don't kill that rare thing I need". On that note, you could always just go net the thing before your minions swarm it.

spotted the guy that doesnt know what he's talking about /never played a summoner. The minions rape the screen man, get a grip. If the league mechanic doesnt work, with a STAPLE, common build then that league mechanic is broken, and your opinion saying other wise is absolutely absurd.'

Spotted the guy with a hard on for witch. The league isn't broken just because one fucking build can't play it lol. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this wouldn't be the first time a build suddenly became not viable, no?

ONE build? You really really dont know what you're saying lol. Why post?

Can I change my vote from "NO", to :

I love the idea of the beast crafting, catching beasts, all of it.
But maybe the *entire* net idea needs a complete rethink.

It may not be possible to have the mechanic flow with endgame flow.

Just don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, I love the new NPC and fighting beasts for uniques too much.

I vote no. New, bold things shouldn’t be changed in 3 days time. Your patches are already improving the experience greatly, but capturing dead beasts changes the fundamentals of the league.

Leagues are temporary, and should feel different to be interesting. Trust your vision, and if it doesn’t work out you have a new league soon anyways, or can patch later.

I personally find getting the sweet spot for catching a rare mob fun, and less mindless than clearing map after map. But hey if mapping is you’re thing you can still do it too