Poll: Should we add Nets that work on Dead Beasts?

Alright, I've read a few posts and thought a bit before making my vote for "yes, but not common". Hopefully it's not getting a new grind-currency, but another capture tool.

The simple idea is just that accidents happen and you cannot keep re-entering areas all day just to get a few captures. Doesn't even work with maps like that.

I'm playing PoE with some friends, but different time schedules often leave me solo. I tend to stick with own ranger builds, that are out of meta and not like all the builds you are forced to take centered around full ressistences and hp, whatever character you wanted to play.

Which in return forces me to kill on sight, or be one-shot by anything.
Ah yes, and since almost every boss is chaos and elemental resistent, but covers a lot of ground with aoe and leaves almost no space to kite in these ridiculously small arenas, I have averagely 15 seconds before I die, which summons up to a lot of deaths if the fight goes long.
(Looking expecially at you, Malachai, Kitava and Brine King, and that's where I currently am).

Now in BEASTIARY LEAGUE I am forced to hug quite a few new aoe-sustain-crowdspamm-dmg monsters, which I need to cuddle up to and careful lower their treshhold...
Well it's really simple, there are only 3 outcomes...

1) I crit it and it's just dead at some point, the fun is over and I feel horrible.
2) It just deletes me, I invest a shit-ton of time just repeatedly dying to catch it. FUN?
(And yes, I could probably easily delete it in return, but we talk about captures.)
3) I cannot lower his hp cause it's summon-adds and sustainability are too much. I had this it least once or twice within the first 2 acts. Well, I camped the area entrance and mounted my hardest dps while repeatedly getting slain and instant respawning in hopes to finally get it, but this can't be the intended way. And it's no lategame solution. And yes, I am a full damage build so this is the one advantage I should have over the beast, bursting it down...


Except for that, PoE has been some fun, the story is ok, and the new league offers new stuff.
Compared to normal you have a few new drop chances, and well, gotta catch 'em all.

Oh and god bless the meme community in the new league.

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Vertal0 wrote:

I'm getting the feeling that most people in this thread that don't want you to capture dead beasts are either playing a very weak build, or haven't even gotten to mapping yet.

"Everyone that disagrees with me is a loser"

I would say yes, But at the same time only if the corpse is not destroyed, and if you do bring something back from the dead, it should be zombified, possibly have negative outcomes on the crafting recipe, and be much harder to deal with in the arena.

And doing the current nets instantaneous? most of the time i've lost a beast its because the net have a casting time an animation.

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zankioh wrote:

How isn't "No" clearly winning?

You gotta realize that these official forums are mostly filled with scrubs. Just look at General Discussion, they whine about every little nerf and only want buffs across the board every league. "Yes" vote is a buff. If they posted this same poll on reddit, then "No" would easily win.

I'm sure the majority don't want this to happen. I blame GGG for putting up this poll in the first place. They should have just scrapped this silly idea. Sigh.

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zankioh wrote:

How isn't "No" clearly winning?

Capturing dead beasts is the opposite of what this league is about. How do people not realize this?
If you can just capture dead beasts it ruins the play style promoted by the league in the first place and makes it another "there's some random things on the map while you run through clearing multiple screens at once" kind of league of which we definitely had enough.

Because people care more about their gainz than about the integrity of a league.
Does this really surprise you?

Hi Bex,

I'm not rich but you'll see I'm loyal. I'd like to suggest a a type of Net that immediately enrages the beast but captures it when killed. Get rid of the net tiers, they are unnecessary and a real pain to keep track of and use. One net for regular trapping and one net for advanced trapping. Wall it behind a level or some RP. Last suggestion; please add a stash to the menagerie.

Thank you all so much for your hard work, community involvement, and an absolutely stellar game,

DirpDanger (Matt Hardcastle)

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1453R wrote:

Oh like hell people will bother with standard captures once Roadkill Nets go in.

Always funny how people make up names for things they don't like. Like now it's "roadkill" nets. Does that make your argument stronger to make fun of something in which you don't agree? ;-) At least you're not the first to use that mockery tactic.

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1453R wrote:

Not a bleeding chance in hell the clearspeedmongers will do anything but ignore Bestiary as hard as they can until they need a specific recipe, then just throw their jabbering buttpiles of hoarded Roadkill Nets at corpses until they get what they want.

100% agreed. I don't think these dead nets are a permanent solution, but at least they're one solution GGG offered. I'd rather see something done to help the casuals. The clearspeed people will just skip it, buy dead nets, and do it later for challenges, etc. But how is that any different than the shortcuts they already take? Just a different type of shortcut.

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1453R wrote:

This was already a dicey league to start with, a risky thing for GGG to try.

They added a free stun skill for beasts. Yes, that was a fail in my book. They should just re-work the capture process. I've proposed one possible solution. Many others here proposed other solutions that would work just as well.

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1453R wrote:

No penalty anymore whatsoever for building a rampant asshole clearspeed build that can't slow down enough to actually engage with the league.

Those builds exist regardless of the Bestiary league mechanics. Those players will just plow through to end-game, then intentionally nerf their build (remove gems, edit passives, change skills, etc.) and go through to collect the beasts in one big swipe. They can ALREADY DO THAT without dead nets. So why do people continue to argue that point? People already found a way around it.

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1453R wrote:

Oh like hell people will bother with standard captures once Roadkill Nets go in. Not a bleeding chance in hell the clearspeedmongers will do anything but ignore Bestiary as hard as they can until they need a specific recipe, then just throw their jabbering buttpiles of hoarded Roadkill Nets at corpses until they get what they want.

This was already a dicey league to start with, a risky thing for GGG to try. Now they're sabotaging the entire thing by allowing players to just skip it all freely and then still get their stuff. No penalty anymore whatsoever for building a rampant asshole clearspeed build that can't slow down enough to actually engage with the league.

Nice play, folks. We almost dodged Bestiary becoming a joke. It was up over 50% Screw That for a little bit.

RIP Bestiary League 2018-2018.

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VOTE NO WHILE YOU CAN!
Tell your mother, your brother and your brother from another mother to vote NO!

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Xavathos wrote:

VOTE NO WHILE YOU CAN!
Tell your mother, your brother and your brother from another mother to vote NO!

Sorry, just like your arguments to vote "no", this tactic doesn't work either. ;-) ...

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Bex_GGG wrote:

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