Poll: Should we add Nets that work on Dead Beasts?

Poll: Should we add Nets that work on Dead Beasts?

Yes, but more common
943025.72%
Yes, but more rare
961326.21%
No
1762848.07%
Poll closed
Yes for me.
Why? If I see a beast I want to capture I need to make sure if I have all the nets in my inventory, position myself, dismiss my auras or something so I wont 1shot it - that's super annoying and I want to farm those beasts "on-the-fly".
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why not simply change this bavior of nets, instead of stunning for 3 seconds, just tag them with a permanent debuff without changing the monsters combatability. So you tag an enemy with a net, after the monster reach 0% health, it will get captured.
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1453R wrote:
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cipher_nemo wrote:
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1453R wrote:
WHELP SO MUCH FOR BESTIARY BEING ABOUT CATCHING BEASTS

Officially Roadkill League now. Totes time to skip. Ugh

Wraeclast is a land where the dead rise again...
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Wraeclast is the land of the damned. This forsaken continent is home to many writhing horrors, murderous beasts, and ravenous undead. The very soil is permeated with dark, ancient power, the earth shivering with malice. The dead are refused peace, rising up and hopelessly wandering in eternal pain, sorrow and hunger. The wildlife is twisted and misshapen, unnaturally aggressive and savage.

There's nothing wrong with the in-character explanation for beasts. And if the dead nets are rare, people will still attempt the regular method of catching them first.


Oh like hell people will bother with standard captures once Roadkill Nets go in. Not a bleeding chance in hell the clearspeedmongers will do anything but ignore Bestiary as hard as they can until they need a specific recipe, then just throw their jabbering buttpiles of hoarded Roadkill Nets at corpses until they get what they want.

This was already a dicey league to start with, a risky thing for GGG to try. Now they're sabotaging the entire thing by allowing players to just skip it all freely and then still get their stuff. No penalty anymore whatsoever for building a rampant asshole clearspeed build that can't slow down enough to actually engage with the league.

Nice play, folks. We almost dodged Bestiary becoming a joke. It was up over 50% Screw That for a little bit.


THAT. Again.

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cipher_nemo wrote:
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zankioh wrote:
How isn't "No" clearly winning?
No isn't winning because the mechanics to capture a beast suck. Royally suck. And people want that to change. I agree that dead nets are not the best solution, but at least they're one solution GGG can make rather quickly. Hopefully they can revamp the entire mechanic later?

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zankioh wrote:
Capturing dead beasts is the opposite of what this league is about. How do people not realize this?
How do you not realize that Einhar transforms the live beast into a dead ball of blood before transferring it to the menagerie? Unless you want to argue that the spinning ball of blood is alive somehow? lol.


1. no, "people" do not want this league to become brain-dead trivial and favor the mindless speedclear as before. It's the bunch of RMT-farmers, their alt accounts, and people who's real issue is the targeting. THAT is the majority of the "people" who have a problem with Bestiary.
2. don't nitpick on the graphic or animation to justify an outright stupid solution, which will ruin the league.

People who want to catch beasts - ADAPT, whatever it means, slow the hell down, take a damn support out of your gear or do a beast-farming character. People do that for Labs, for Atziri - why not for the league. You want to faceroll speedclear - go to the graveyard standard and be mindless to your hearts content. No one "CHANGED" Breach mechanics to accommodate the single target builds back then, why the hell should it happen now.

For the love of god GGG, do not ruin this league. Do not let the people who can't adapt, to force your hand. It's YOUR GAME, we love it, we do and will keep supporting you. If you are looking for a way out of this poll. There are two simple options:
1. re-run it AFTER the auto-targeting change goes live. That alone will cut the "yes" votes by 20-25%
2. do not count the votes from the ppl without ANY challenges.
I'm sorry but "Accounts that existed BEFORE the poll came live" is not good enough. All of those RMT-traders accounts existed before, they can be used to sway the vote. Why should the *people* / accounts that DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE CHALLENGE = DID NOT CAPTURE A SINGLE BEAST, be allowed to take part in this? it makes no sense at the most basic lvl.
Last edited by Fifth2301#5767 on Mar 5, 2018, 10:59:10 AM
So you are adding both yes options and then choose the more popular one if it gets the majority of votes? Sounds like current german politics, end up with an option a majority kind of agrees on but then get a solution jammed in that only has a third of total backing at most...
Last edited by jimsen#0522 on Mar 5, 2018, 10:57:30 AM
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jochen_wuerfel wrote:
Yes for me.
Why? If I see a beast I want to capture I need to make sure if I have all the nets in my inventory, position myself, dismiss my auras or something so I wont 1shot it - that's super annoying and I want to farm those beasts "on-the-fly".


If you one shot it you just throw the net first -_-
I guess there is no hope for this league after all.

Oh well, moving on.
~deleted, I misread the OP~
Last edited by AsbelFar#6192 on Mar 5, 2018, 11:06:26 AM
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Fifth2301 wrote:
1. no, "people" do not want this league to become brain-dead trivial and favor the mindless speedclear as before. It's the bunch of RMT-farmers, their alt accounts, and people who's real issue is the targeting. THAT is the majority of the "people" who have a problem with Bestiary.

Do you honestly think clearspeed and RMT farmers can't do that right now? They rush to end-game while ignoring the Bestiary, then if they want the challenges or specific recipes they'll nerf their characters on DPS, then go back through to get all the beasts they want. Those people probably won't care about dead nets after they completed progression in terms of completing the challenges. They'll only use dead nets at end-game for rare beasts in maps. So if you want to nerf clearspeed people, make dead nets only available during progression.
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Last edited by cipher_nemo#6436 on Mar 5, 2018, 11:01:45 AM
Yesterday I saw a pohx video making a return to previous zones oneshotting the beasts,yet when he wanted to capture it as demonstration he could do it.Same with it on raiz.So I don't get the excuses being made on voting yes.You just can't think that dead nets won't solve your issue.

Also,I thought about it.This is going nowhere.Its just GGG buying time while we argue while they work on a real solution
Bye bye desync!
You cant capture dead beasts...capturing means alive. We failed our "Mission" when we capture dead stuff that makes no sense. If you want to give us the option to capture dead beasts then at least decrease their level. Lets say 50% cause there is no achievement in capturing dead stuff.
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