Hardcore and why you should play / try it

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tadl wrote:

Its also not about forcing to HC more about understanding that HC is there and people complaining in SC about things that are just not a problem at all.

So the concerns of those that chose Default aren't important? People chose Default because that's how they chose to experience the game. People chose Hardcore for the same reason. Just because a problem isn't a concern in HC, doesn't mean it's a non-issue.

You signed up to lose your character upon death. I didn't sign up to lose hours of exp upon death. Just because the personal preferences of Default players doesn't match your own person preferences, it doesn't mean they're concerns are invalid. Prick.

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tadl wrote:

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Alure wrote:

I prefer not to lose weeks of time and effort when I die to something beyond my control. Thanks though.

There's nothing "Hardcore" about erasing invested time. Hardcore League = Reroll League. No thanks.

So you are also not going into a relationship because if you break up with your partner you loose time and effort. And stop loving each other is something beyond your control too...sry this is just a stupid argument that can be easily turned around. Maybe think again about it?

You should think again before comparing a video game to a relationship, I'd say. The two aren't even a close comparison. Not to mention, no one gets in a relationship with the idea that they're just gonna break up in a few months.

If Hardcore was the only way one should experience the game, there wouldn't be Default.

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tadl wrote:

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Alure wrote:

I prefer not to lose weeks of time and effort when I die to something beyond my control. Thanks though.

There's nothing "Hardcore" about erasing invested time. Hardcore League = Reroll League. No thanks.

So you are also not going into a relationship because if you break up with your partner you loose time and effort. And stop loving each other is something beyond your control too...sry this is just a stupid argument that can be easily turned around. Maybe think again about it?

Oh really comparing a video game to relationships who's the stupid one here

This paints an overly rosy picture of HC though. The reality is you will outlevel the content, have to farm a lot more to get the items to do new bosses even before end game and take stabs at bosses and if things don't go well portal out and gear up more before trying them again. You basically end up playing the game scared all the time which means you take a lot less challenges and most of the content isn't actually as fun. The big boss fights are a lot more fun and obviously meaningful though.

I like HC but it definitely has its downsides and there is no way it is 'how the game was meant to be played'. If that were the case they would call it default.

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piscator123 wrote:

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tadl wrote:

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Alure wrote:

I prefer not to lose weeks of time and effort when I die to something beyond my control. Thanks though.

There's nothing "Hardcore" about erasing invested time. Hardcore League = Reroll League. No thanks.

So you are also not going into a relationship because if you break up with your partner you loose time and effort. And stop loving each other is something beyond your control too...sry this is just a stupid argument that can be easily turned around. Maybe think again about it?

Oh really comparing a video game to relationships who's the stupid one here

That's what I said.

You go into Hardcore League knowing that you'll most-likely eventually die, losing your character. Hopefully, you don't go into a relationship expecting to eventually break it off. You also don't instantly reroll with a new girlfriend either.

Dumbest comparison I think I've ever seen.

I'd play hardcore if it wasn't full of annoying elitists. Besides, hardcore means no more sub-optimal builds. I build my chars around a theme and try to get them to work, not the other way around. Still, great post OP, would appeal to many.

First, thanks in basicly saying "ok my point with lost time is bullshit" because you did not replay to it. Thanks god we overcome this argument and now we can move forward. And ofc its the internet and you are the kind of person that just keeps attacking then really arguing about a point you brought up.

SO I will keep on going with trying to argue with you even if I know its a waste of time.


First of all you could start with an example. But to wrap this up. We share the same Game so we have the same Problems. There are people complaining or suggesting things that does not really have an effect in the game. Like a place for ingame Shops or other "i dont care casual things" (y i call them this way) and there are one that have an impact in the game. Like mimimi buff this, buff this buff this or this needs a nerf.

And here is great difference: We have on try on a Problem. If we cant solve its game over. If a Softcore player cant solve the Problem he just looks at it with the same character, same gear and so on what is missing. Did I die because he hits to hard? Ok lets get some more HP and try it again. It didnt work, well what damage does he. Oh Lighing so lets get some Lightning resist with a potion - yeah its dead. I can keep on progressing. I don't say all but many players in SC , and I did it in the past too, think this way. They don't really look if there is a way to use different positioning, movement strategy and so on to kill it in first place and they wont do it after it. They use the direct way of their gamestyle and the mindset that goes into this gamestyle.

In hardcore its over - the next try is completely different. Even with the same class and spec. Your gear is different. The chance to have the same stats again are absurd low. But if we can solve a Problem its solved and so its doable. And if something is manageable in HC its fucking easy in SC. THis was true in D1, D2 and all the other games.

So I really dont get it if people complain about ingame things in softcore that are absolute doable, because we can do it in Hardcore and we have to care much more about dying

PS: They complain because they want the game changed the way they are playing. For the most time it looks like the force GGG to change the game to their gameplay and this is a bad attitude. And majority should not matter at this point cause it ruins a game. Every change that makes a game easier is in my opinion bad. Because easy things are even in Games nothing that keeps people playing it. Its like in RL, just because the most simple way to get laid is to pay a hooker does not mean we all just have sex this way.

Only reason people need to hear: If you die, your character goes into default anyway. There is literally no reason to not try it out.

Congrats on a very well thought out posts. I might just try it out.

I will not edit my thread. I am mannerd enouph to write a new one. Maybe you will start this too?

I picked the RL example cause this examples are simple enouph that even people that just dont want to really share minds and get new ideas into their mind...well can understand them.


And BTW I never wrote Play HC because Softcore sucks, but you acting like I did I wrote that HC is not for everyone and just explaing HC and now comes the "Internet Troll" with you. A guy that just goes offtopic to spam and give his opinion why he does not play HC and now it comes, he flames it...yy your reroll leage shit...Now ask yourself some questions before you start trolling even more. And I will write them down for you just well for the sake of my peace.

Did I force you to play HC?
Did I force any one to play HC?
Did I wrote playing SC is bad?

If the answer is No , and yes it is No, why the hell did you replay the way you did. It was just unnecessary. Its like a guy asks you if the Frensh Fries are enjoyable at Mc Donalds and you tell them just "they are better at burger king". And does this help him at all? Maybe you will get it? We will see.