Witch - [3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri - Forum

" Natt wrote: " kayella wrote: I would still consider using the AG with dual wield Dyadus, which in 3.3, gives 200% increased ignited damage. Dyadus now has "100% increased Damage with Ignites inflicted on Chilled Enemies". From the way they worded this I believe it only applies to the person/minion carrying the item. I interpreted it as increasing damage from any source of ignite on the chilled enemy because the old text "Enemies Chilled by you take 100% increased Burning Damage" has the word 'you' and the new text doesn't. " Kurnis wrote: Also, does TV totem even count as ignite? I think it's just "burning damage" right? So even if it worked on minions, it still wouldn't work. Dyadus is dead to TV and SR builds, so I was thinking about switching to FEs, using ignite and using Dyadus for that. The other nice thing about FEs is their consistent dps. I find with TVs they can take their time popping down a totem, then it can be slow to rotate and then the totem itself takes damage and dies. FEs run up to the boss and vomit fire. 🔰🌀✨ Video guides on youtube! https://www.youtube.com/KayGaming ✨🌀🔰 🔶🔷🔶 Kay's Summoner build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145 🔶🔷🔶	Posted by kayella on May 31, 2018, 9:41:31 AM Quote this Post
" Natt wrote: " kayella wrote: I would still consider using the AG with dual wield Dyadus, which in 3.3, gives 200% increased ignited damage. Dyadus now has "100% increased Damage with Ignites inflicted on Chilled Enemies". From the way they worded this I believe it only applies to the person/minion carrying the item. Help a noob out. which spectre is FE? And would you use them only for bosses, and keep SG for clearing? Or are FE good for that too?	Posted by Kurnis on May 31, 2018, 9:52:38 AM Quote this Post
" kayella wrote: " Natt wrote: " kayella wrote: I would still consider using the AG with dual wield Dyadus, which in 3.3, gives 200% increased ignited damage. Dyadus now has "100% increased Damage with Ignites inflicted on Chilled Enemies". From the way they worded this I believe it only applies to the person/minion carrying the item. I interpreted it as increasing damage from any source of ignite on the chilled enemy because the old text "Enemies Chilled by you take 100% increased Burning Damage" has the word 'you' and the new text doesn't. " Kurnis wrote: Also, does TV totem even count as ignite? I think it's just "burning damage" right? So even if it worked on minions, it still wouldn't work. Dyadus is dead to TV and SR builds, so I was thinking about switching to FEs, using ignite and using Dyadus for that. The other nice thing about FEs is their consistent dps. I find with TVs they can take their time popping down a totem, then it can be slow to rotate and then the totem itself takes damage and dies. FEs run up to the boss and vomit fire. I never played summoner and i want to start this league with this build. I understand what kayella post and i feels is a real good idea. It is a way to use the new boost on ignite from 3.3 in this build and evade the nerf in AG The only thing is... that we need to test it in game, and if the theory work, just need to test if the dmg is better and if the FEs will survive the fights.	Posted by kinglor on May 31, 2018, 9:58:34 AM Quote this Post
" Kurnis wrote: " Natt wrote: " kayella wrote: I would still consider using the AG with dual wield Dyadus, which in 3.3, gives 200% increased ignited damage. Dyadus now has "100% increased Damage with Ignites inflicted on Chilled Enemies". From the way they worded this I believe it only applies to the person/minion carrying the item. Help a noob out. which spectre is FE? And would you use them only for bosses, and keep SG for clearing? Or are FE good for that too? I'm not using a life-based block build in this video, but you can see what Cannibal Fire-Eaters (FEs) are like in this shaper run I did after reading about the reworked Dyadus. Take note they're only 5L* in this video (helmet also has minion life and burning, but I don't think the burning is helping them). https://youtu.be/cHJxcqFs2rs They're better than TV for clearing, but not as good as SG. They're definitely better than SG for bossing. One good thing about them is that they share the same gems as SGs! I plan to use SGs until I can get golem gems, then I'll switch to FE + golems. 🔰🌀✨ Video guides on youtube! https://www.youtube.com/KayGaming ✨🌀🔰 🔶🔷🔶 Kay's Summoner build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3179145 🔶🔷🔶 Last edited by kayella on May 31, 2018, 11:21:22 AM	Posted by kayella on May 31, 2018, 10:54:29 AM Quote this Post
" LaplaceNoMa wrote: AG is great with SGs, but requires slightly different items. Chest: Zandessu's or Belly. Nice info, but what is Zandessu's ? Last edited by pkirill on May 31, 2018, 11:35:41 AM	Posted by pkirill on May 31, 2018, 11:35:17 AM Quote this Post
The 3.3 update little bit says you can use combustion on your AG to reduce the target's fire res, but the support gem says the target has to be ignited to apply that -res, so that won't work. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2150625 IGN: BallDSelfMadeBadBuild	Posted by slicedbacon on May 31, 2018, 12:14:48 PM Quote this Post
Well, if Fire-eaters will prove to be good enough, this build will literally torch the Atlas. " kayella wrote: https://youtu.be/cHJxcqFs2rs Thanks for the vids. Last edited by Mallard7 on May 31, 2018, 12:23:30 PM	Posted by Mallard7 on May 31, 2018, 12:20:18 PM Quote this Post
" slicedbacon wrote: The 3.3 update little bit says you can use combustion on your AG to reduce the target's fire res, but the support gem says the target has to be ignited to apply that -res, so that won't work. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2150625 But man, if you read the Kayella idea for 3.3 post, explain with the chance to ignite and speel echo in the 6l composition, they will ignite for sure...	Posted by kinglor on May 31, 2018, 12:32:49 PM Quote this Post
Playing nothing but this build since Harbinger (including all the races), and getting #1 in SSF Flashback made me burn out, but I still want some summoning action. What do you guys think about the possibility of making a mix of this build (in other words, having life/block/4 spectres) and skeletons? Could it be painlessly changed around to have Vaal Skeletons (+ possibly new flask for Vaal charges?) in 6L, while having some spectres in a shaper 4L helm? Some of the ascendancies would have to be replaced with bone sculptor, too... I think skellies could be a much more interesting addition to this build than flame golems, especially early on when Anima stone is quite unreachable.	Posted by LaplaceNoMa on May 31, 2018, 5:39:49 PM Quote this Post
" LaplaceNoMa wrote: Playing nothing but this build since Harbinger (including all the races), and getting #1 in SSF Flashback made me burn out, but I still want some summoning action. What do you guys think about the possibility of making a mix of this build (in other words, having life/block/4 spectres) and skeletons? Could it be painlessly changed around to have Vaal Skeletons (+ possibly new flask for Vaal charges?) in 6L, while having some spectres in a shaper 4L helm? Some of the ascendancies would have to be replaced with bone sculptor, too... I think skellies could be a much more interesting addition to this build than flame golems, especially early on when Anima stone is quite unreachable. That's what I'm doing. Dead Reckoning and then a shared 6L with SG/Skele for mapping and TV (think the damage will still be okay) for bosses. Tentative links: Mapping: Spectre, Skeles, Spell Echo, Minion Damage, GMP and Ele focus. Bosses: Swap out GMP for like Slower proj. Also what I'll use as a curse is Proj Weakness, because it works for both spectres and skele mages.	Posted by nofail42 on May 31, 2018, 7:32:08 PM Quote this Post