[3.6 Video Guide] Beginner's Guide SRS Baron Life [HC/SC/Atziri/Uber Izaro/Shaper Viable]

"

RonnieLee wrote:

Vulnerability is better for clear speed, but most prefer enfeeble for the extra defensive layer.

Wouldn't Elemental Weakness be better for clearspeed? PoB certainly think so. Between the natural 50% fire conversion, hatred, grip of the council, Elemental Damage with Attacks (if you have it rather than Empower) and EE you have way more elemental than physical.

Enfeeble is definitely better for HC/bossing.

"

IngenieroPeronista wrote:

Hi ghazzy!
Nice build, im going back to SRS after a while playing other stuffs. Nice Build BTW.

Any advice about the skill tree for someone how can't afford Baron?
I want to maximize the tree regarding that i would not buy the baron for a while, maybe don't buy it at all...

Less strenght nodes maybe?

Thx!

I'm not Ghazzy, but the way I played it was simply to take more minion damage nodes. The strength nodes are also the most efficient way to increase your life pool, so dropping those means you're becoming less tanky and there are very few ways to raise your DPS beyond the three minion damage areas on the tree. There's a node just about Retribution/Sanctity (which also has Herd the Flock, very useful for levelling) and the minion damage and attack speed nodes at the very top near Cruel Preparation.

I left out Golem's Blood to take the top-most nodes and will spec out of them and get Golem's Blood once I get the Baron.

Also, the Baron is easily the least cost-effective way to increase your damage. A +3 maul can be had for around 75% the price (if you craft it yourself) and grip of the council is a big buff for a fraction of the price.

hey guys, how is the build going vs heavy bosses/maps?
I need to know if the build works well to do:
guardians
vaal temple map
harbinger map and other t15
vinktar square
uber atziri and uber izaro
breachlords like chayula and uul netol

it may not be the ideal to fight the shaper, but if the other ones are doable without problems, it's still pretty good for the endgame

The build is very cool, i like it! :)

I have some probs runin Hatred + Haste + Clarity lvl1... only 114 mana left (with passives in reduced mana reserved) and too low mana reg with clarity lvl1.

What should i do?

"

eisi2010 wrote:

The build is very cool, i like it! :)

I have some probs runin Hatred + Haste + Clarity lvl1... only 114 mana left (with passives in reduced mana reserved) and too low mana reg with clarity lvl1.

What should i do?

You're not supposed to run Haste until you have your SRS in a 6-link with blood magic (either the support gem or the Vagan craft). Until then, run Hatred plus high level Clarity so you can sustain your SRS.

Hi All,

Sorry if I ask something that has been discussed before, I admit I have not read the whole thread.

I'm currently playing this build in Harbinger League SSF. That means I'm pretty limited when it comes to having specific equipment. I'm still running the SRS with Melee Splash, Minion Damage, Minion Speed in a 4 Link on Mana. :-)

I'm currently level 61 in Act 9 and things are starting to be a bit tenacious, I think I need more damage.

I was wondering about triggering EE via Ball Lightning to increase damage. Is this something I should do at this point? Ghazzy doesn't seem to be using it in the Video guide at all, so i was wondering if this makes sense for me right now.

Many Thanks for your advise...

Great build this is... great for begginers too, BUT ...
The Baron price is really high on league like Harbinger is.. :)

"

Abra0815 wrote:

Hi All,

Sorry if I ask something that has been discussed before, I admit I have not read the whole thread.

I'm currently playing this build in Harbinger League SSF. That means I'm pretty limited when it comes to having specific equipment. I'm still running the SRS with Melee Splash, Minion Damage, Minion Speed in a 4 Link on Mana. :-)

I'm currently level 61 in Act 9 and things are starting to be a bit tenacious, I think I need more damage.

I was wondering about triggering EE via Ball Lightning to increase damage. Is this something I should do at this point? Ghazzy doesn't seem to be using it in the Video guide at all, so i was wondering if this makes sense for me right now.

Many Thanks for your advise...

Yea getting the EE off on harder packs/bosses will most def help. If you can get a vaal haste that will work too. Also look into getting a +1/+2 staff, even in a 5 link. Only costs a few chaos and it will make a difference to keep you going until you get enough currency for the key items.

Given the high price of Baron right now, its best to get whatever edge you can get to keep you progressing. Don't quit just cause you can't get that shit right now.

"

seoreom wrote:

[noob question]
There are 19 jems (except 6 gems about SRS)

also, if i use one optional gem (vaal lightning trap), I should use 20 jems, right?

How can I do that?

Are there any extra gem slots?

head - 4
body - 6
hand - 4
foot - 4
----------
I only have 18 gem slots.

Do I have to use 2 unset rings?

Very good point, seems as I did add too many variations and accidentally screwed that up.
Basically, you want to use the noted gems but combine them for the most effective route of your choosing.

Such as:

CWDT + IC doesnt really need Increased Duration though if you can combine it with Flesh offering & Vaal Haste (if you get a 5L chest) that helps saving socket room.
Unset rings are absolutely nice to make room for things like VLT though, again, not mandatory.
Leap Slam can always be changed no matter what weapon you use to run Flame Dash + Faster Casting and simply run due to high rampage stacks it should be smoother if not faster as well.

Another optional slot is to remove GMP from the EE Ball Lightning and simply not bother that for anything but bosses in which case you get the VLT to set off EE :)

"

Giammafix wrote:

"

Ghazzy wrote:

"

Giammafix wrote:

how do you deal vs no regen mods with blood magic?

Doable but risky, you have to use flasks but generally I would avoid it.

thanks for the answer ghazzy!
and what do you think about Karvarousku skill tree? it's a bit different in some points, focuses more on dexterity and skill duration.
could I follow that version too?

Both Karvs, myself & TheUberElite has very solid approaches to this build, ultimately it will come down to a matter of taste really as we all 3 have the experience & knowledge for build guide creations :)

"

lolbam wrote:

=2hello thie my first play through and im really enjoying the build.

im pretty decked out the last upgrade im trying to get is a 6l +1 gems +2 fire gems

what would be the easyest way to craft a +1 +2

Easiest way to get a +3 fire 2H is this way:

https://redd.it/6s48r9

"

Nassavas wrote:

I have a question on the gems. Im using a POE builder, and its showing that i do more damage with elemental damage to attacks instead of empower.

Did i do something wrong? Should empower add dmg? and roughly how much damage should it add over Elemental dmg to attacks? Is it worth the 70-100c required?

That is actually possible if you are calculating against targets hit by EE since the build does soo much elemental damage. However, it shouldn't be higher than Empower vs targets not hit by EE which makes it a more solid choice. Not only do they get damage & accuracy, they also get increased survivability vs stray projectiles & splash effects which is very nice for later end-game content.

"

SerLynn wrote:

Running this build with some very minor changes due to not having the Baron (I've taken some more minion damage nodes). I've breezed through right up to red maps as a league starter. Just upgraded to a +3 gems blood magic maul (2ex + 50c to craft it, much cheaper than a +3 staff) and am destroying red maps at just Lv89. Baron is the next upgrade but this build has great clear speed and bossing even without it.

Thanks for the guide, Ghazzy.

"

Nassavas wrote:

I have a question on the gems. Im using a POE builder, and its showing that i do more damage with elemental damage to attacks instead of empower.

Did i do something wrong? Should empower add dmg? and roughly how much damage should it add over Elemental dmg to attacks? Is it worth the 70-100c required?

Empower beats out Elemental Damage with Attacks only in a +3 staff/maul, unless you have an Empower 4 (in which case it is always superior). This is because the +1 to socketed gems applies to Empower, giving a further +1 to SRS. The difference isn't enormous so it's a very low priority investment.

My pleasure bro, glad you like it!

"

Vallenhael wrote:

Just bricked shaper. Deathless until p3, everything easy, but in p3 he just murders all your spirirts with his twin and it takes so long that the whole area is eventually filled with voids It's really sad that you start every phase with like 2 mil dps only for it to drop down to maybe 200k because you can't keep attacking...

Will try again when I have empower lvl 4, but looks like I maybe should consider rerolling, since endgame damage just doesn't look so great, even empower 4 is just 10% increase. Current gear:

With 7,9k life and 830 str, still no chance p3. Don't even know if there are any other dmg upgrades besides EMpower 4, don't think so ...

Looks like Empower is your to go-to choice, for boss killing I can recommend using raise spectre for any minion using the Proximity Shields. Outside of that Shaper and also Uber Atziri are a pain in the ass if they get to kill of the minions.

"

Medoo wrote:

How can you guys sustain 6L blood magic casting? It's over 100 life per cast and you can easily have 3 casts/second. A ton of life regen or?

With proper gearing you'll be regenerating over 500 life/sec later on :)

"

Phemeto wrote:

"

Vallenhael wrote:

Just bricked shaper. Deathless until p3, everything easy, but in p3 he just murders all your spirirts with his twin and it takes so long that the whole area is eventually filled with voids It's really sad that you start every phase with like 2 mil dps only for it to drop down to maybe 200k because you can't keep attacking...

Will try again when I have empower lvl 4, but looks like I maybe should consider rerolling, since endgame damage just doesn't look so great, even empower 4 is just 10% increase. Current gear:

With 7,9k life and 830 str, still no chance p3. Don't even know if there are any other dmg upgrades besides EMpower 4, don't think so ...

Yeah Im wondering about this too. shaper seems out of the question, although I'm not quite at him yet. How are the guardians with SRS?

Guardians should be very fine, Shaper is messy and needs to be dealt with carefully and planed. Vaal Grace is also another addition specially for phase 3.

"

nocx13 wrote:

Hello guys,

Sorry i'm new to summoner and i really don't understand at all what's the point of running desecrate?

Can someone quickly explain it to me?

Edit : Also isn't vulnerability better than enfeeble for clearspeed?

Elemental Weakness is the best for offence actually :)

Desecrate is being used to be able to cast Flesh Offering on demand when needed, mainly used to start a map & boss rooms without adds.

"

Inferius90 wrote:

"

Vallenhael wrote:

Just bricked shaper. Deathless until p3, everything easy, but in p3 he just murders all your spirirts with his twin and it takes so long that the whole area is eventually filled with voids It's really sad that you start every phase with like 2 mil dps only for it to drop down to maybe 200k because you can't keep attacking...

Will try again when I have empower lvl 4, but looks like I maybe should consider rerolling, since endgame damage just doesn't look so great, even empower 4 is just 10% increase. Current gear:

With 7,9k life and 830 str, still no chance p3. Don't even know if there are any other dmg upgrades besides EMpower 4, don't think so ...

I see that baron gives a lot of damage...
I have problems with T5 bosses..

You can kill Shaper without the Baron, Karvarousku showed that of not too long ago. It help tons but far from mandatory :)

Whats your gear situation, having problems with t5 maps is not alright, let's solve it.

"

IngenieroPeronista wrote:

Hi ghazzy!
Nice build, im going back to SRS after a while playing other stuffs. Nice Build BTW.

Any advice about the skill tree for someone how can't afford Baron?
I want to maximize the tree regarding that i would not buy the baron for a while, maybe don't buy it at all...

Less strenght nodes maybe?

Thx!

Hey,

Cheers!

You could opt out of some strength nodes for shorter pathing & maybe another minion damage cluster, ultimately the strength nodes are mainly travel points towards life nodes.

"

Giammafix wrote:

hey guys, how is the build going vs heavy bosses/maps?
I need to know if the build works well to do:
guardians
vaal temple map
harbinger map and other t15
vinktar square
uber atziri and uber izaro
breachlords like chayula and uul netol

it may not be the ideal to fight the shaper, but if the other ones are doable without problems, it's still pretty good for the endgame

Hey,

It works very well!

Shaper can be a bit messy, so can Uber Atziri be (mainly the trio-bosses). Rest should not really be any major problems. Though max key runs in Uber Izaro is not recommended for any minion build.

"

eisi2010 wrote:

The build is very cool, i like it! :)

I have some probs runin Hatred + Haste + Clarity lvl1... only 114 mana left (with passives in reduced mana reserved) and too low mana reg with clarity lvl1.

What should i do?

Well, I would have you re-read the guide first >.<

Lvl 1 Clarity, Haste & Hatred (with generosity) is used WHEN you have a 6L 2H weapon with BM gem or benchcraft. BEFORE that you use a HIGH lvl clarity & Hatred (with generosity) and the 6 points towards aura nodes will be invested towards the keystone "Necromantic Aegis" this way, mana will never be an issue (do keep 1 mana flask for Vaal Haste situations) and when you do switch over it will all be covered by your life! :)

Hope that helps :D

"

Abra0815 wrote:

Hi All,

Sorry if I ask something that has been discussed before, I admit I have not read the whole thread.

I'm currently playing this build in Harbinger League SSF. That means I'm pretty limited when it comes to having specific equipment. I'm still running the SRS with Melee Splash, Minion Damage, Minion Speed in a 4 Link on Mana. :-)

I'm currently level 61 in Act 9 and things are starting to be a bit tenacious, I think I need more damage.

I was wondering about triggering EE via Ball Lightning to increase damage. Is this something I should do at this point? Ghazzy doesn't seem to be using it in the Video guide at all, so i was wondering if this makes sense for me right now.

Many Thanks for your advise...

Hey,

Considering I spent 6h last sunday responding to threads, another 3h today to catch up I don't blame you for not reading it all...


Replace minion speed with Melee Physical, that will help you tons.

EE for damage can always be used indeed.
The video was made without optimized gear from the Beta as mentioned in the video :)

Hope it helps!

"

gamerdocky wrote:

Great build this is... great for begginers too, BUT ...
The Baron price is really high on league like Harbinger is.. :)

Build works great without it, but yeah the Baron prices are hilarious :p

I learnt your guide video but found it is hard to support my mana cost even with 300+ available. How can you keep casting SRS at a high speed with mana only 40?
Plus: Can you explain why you use Immortal Call? I read the skill introduction which write with 0 endurance charge, the duration is only 0.5 (even with so many "increased duration" passive node, this duration is still too short to show its effect). So is this real help defense?

small hint.


add a lvl 7 Arcane Surge to your Flesh Offering.

Free
13% Cast speed
13% Spell Power (useless)
0.6% mana regen

on every cast of Flesh Offering

Very good for lvling


also add in increased duration if you can.